Class sub-forums..

[Mcbard]

Originally Posted by Sethius [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

That being said, EQ is 11 years old, I'm fairly certain all class related issues we could discuss would be a rehash of something that's already been beaten to death (except for a caveat I'll mention below). The wiki would be a better place, I think, to post all of this rehashed information, and we would get the refined end result of the rehashing rather than the gory horse meat. I, for one, want to be able to find acurate info (like wowhead for EQ) without going through a forum.

It may be beaten to death, but where? Finding 10 year old information on something as dynamic as the web is quite the task. Having a p1999 updated source for this information and place to go for questions would be nice.

[Taluvill]

Originally Posted by Mcbard [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

It may be beaten to death, but where? Finding 10 year old information on something as dynamic as the web is quite the task. Having a p1999 updated source for this information and place to go for questions would be nice.

Not just that, but while P99 is damn close, its not perfect. A lot of people will want to post guides that are somewhat specific to P99 and how things work here.

Edit: Leveling guides according to where things are camped here, good grouping spots per class, etc.

[Extunarian]

Not only is finding some of the old information hard to do, but you can't even be sure its right. Check out this casters realm SK creation guide:

Shadow Knights need to balance the difficulty of good melee ability with a reasonable mana pool. With this in mind here are our suggested bonus point spendings:

* Dark Elves: Add 10 Strength and 10 Dexterity.
* Erudites: Add 10 Strength 5 Agility and 5 Dexterity.
* Humans: Add 5 Strength, 5 Agility, 5 Dexterity and 5 Intelligence.
* Iksars: Add 10 Strength, 5 Dexterity and 5 Intelligence.
* Ogre: Add 8 Intelligence, 7 Dexterity and 5 Agility
* Trolls: Add 15 Intelligence and 5 Dexterity.

Int? Hell yes!
Stamina? Eff that!

Funny thing is, when I was looking for this guide, I first tried the forum search function because I know I've seen it posted here before, but I couldn't find it. I did however get super-relevant results like:

- "9/11, an inside job?" (10th result)
- "Sticky: Running EQ under LINUX" (7th result)
- "A discussion on restoring EQ's music once and for all" (3rd result)

I ended up going through the wayback machine to find this guide instead, which took about 1 minute per page load. Not exactly quick and easy.

As for the wiki, yes, it would be great if that were updated. However I for one will probably never update it, whereas I'd happily check into the shaman forum on a daily basis to answer questions. I'm not trying to come off as anti-wiki, but I get a lot more satisfaction from directly answering people's questions than I would from posting a guide that maybe no one even reads. Maybe that's just me.

[Ravhin]

Just want to point out again the P99 wiki:

http://moestaverne.com/p1999wiki/index.php/Main_Page

Now some people may prefer a forum over a wiki in terms of the dialogue and back and forth. But I don't think anyone can argue that finding organized and useful information is a task better suited to a wiki. It's up to the community to make the wiki more relevant by culling information from discussions on certain topics when they pop on the boards.

[Engraverwilliam]

I would love to see class forums.../vote

[Extunarian]

Originally Posted by Ravhin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

It's up to the community to make the wiki more relevant by culling information from discussions on certain topics when they pop on the boards.

This is another reason class sub forums could be helpful. Those folks who wanted to dedicate the time to update the wiki would have a great resource at their fingertips. They could spend less time searching, and more time writing.

[realpoor]

So I've been working on a site for project 1999 boss mobs. I always wanted to do this site back when I played EQ classic, but didn't have the know how. I did back then host a forum called realpoor.com for the server Tarew Marr. I was actually addem who came up with eq.realpoor.com which was the classic loot list which was clean, but hard to update. Anyways I've spent a week adding the loot list and some research recipes, and figured I would update information every day and it would grow to something useful.

The website is http://www.pro1999.com
The forum is http://forum.pro1999.com

I also setup a few forwards to get to other very useful resources for project 1999.
Auction tracker is http://auction.pro1999.com
Wiki is http://wiki.pro1999.com

I just quickly added the forum up there today, I haven't customized it too much, but will be doing that within the next few days. Let me know if you like the idea, if not i'll take it down and focus on information.

[Sethius]

Originally Posted by Mcbard [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

It may be beaten to death, but where? Finding 10 year old information on something as dynamic as the web is quite the task. Having a p1999 updated source for this information and place to go for questions would be nice.

I agree it's hard to find, but that's the point of a wiki (or in my opinion a wiki/forum hybrid, but whatever). This doesn't give credit to a class forums yet, imo, even if I do think a forum has some merit.

I'll give you that a class forum would probably be used more to talk about stuff and ask questions / get a more directed answer (even if the answer is something that could be on a wiki and they could just look up).

I still think the wiki is a better idea in theory for people like myself, who just want info that has been beaten to death over the years but can't find it by my lonesome.

A class forum is better for people who want to talk about the issues and mull them over while also talking about taco bell as often as possible. I think finding info is harder on a forum than a wiki because you have to sift through all the crap, and while the sticky's usually hit some of the things you want, they don't usually get all of them.

On the other hand, a class forum like elitist jerks has going... now there is an example of how to use a class forum in its best form...

I'm divided on this topic, and think that each method has something going for it, *if executed properly*.

[Mcbard]

Originally Posted by Sethius [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I agree it's hard to find, but that's the point of a wiki (or in my opinion a wiki/forum hybrid, but whatever). This doesn't give credit to a class forums yet, imo, even if I do think a forum has some merit.

I'll give you that a class forum would probably be used more to talk about stuff and ask questions / get a more directed answer (even if the answer is something that could be on a wiki and they could just look up).

I still think the wiki is a better idea in theory for people like myself, who just want info that has been beaten to death over the years but can't find it by my lonesome.

A class forum is better for people who want to talk about the issues and mull them over while also talking about taco bell as often as possible. I think finding info is harder on a forum than a wiki because you have to sift through all the crap, and while the sticky's usually hit some of the things you want, they don't usually get all of them.

On the other hand, a class forum like elitist jerks has going... now there is an example of how to use a class forum in its best form...

I'm divided on this topic, and think that each method has something going for it, *if executed properly*.

How is it going to get on to the wiki in the first place though? I agree that the wiki is an awesome resource if you need to look something up, but lets face it compared to even one of the old class forums the wiki has almost no information. Most people will just browse the wiki, and if the don't find what they are looking for give up on that idea altogether unless Google can turn up a quick answer for them.

If they had class forums they could ask their question, get responses, and then perhaps once all of that data is collected it can make its migration from forum to wiki so that the next time somebody has the same question it's there for them.

[maestrom]

^ this.