Class defining epic

[wycca]

Epic List (each category eliminates previous) -
Best Epic for Entire Server - Cleric
Best Epic for Entire Guild - Bard
Best Epic for Individual Class - Magician
Best Epic for You to Poop On - Necromancer

[PDX0621]

Originally Posted by mr_jon3s [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Mage epic is huge. You will always have it on you, best pet till planes of power, does insane dps, and it looks awesome. When the plane of hate revamp happens I think you will see a huge shift in the server with more mages being able to get epic.

What does it look like?

[Sadre Spinegnawer]

Originally Posted by wycca [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

...Best Epic for Entire Server - Cleric....

lol so true.

[Cecily]

Think about Everquest without rogue epics for a minute.

[fastboy21]

another way of doing it would be to think about which classes (on live) were able to stop equipping their epics first and which weren't even carried around in bags.

there were some that were out by late kunark and early velious. others that lasted all the way to plane of time or beyond.

my two most "class defining" were the bard and the wizard. both are game changers in terms of play style. both looked hella cool. bard would equip his until plane of time, wizard would carry his until plane of time; outliving the usefulness of many other epics.

i'm partial though; I played bard and wizard on live.

[Cecily]

Maybe that's a question of poor itemization. Some epics are better than others. Some are bad. Any given epic for a specific class is the best epic that class will get.
This debate is silly.

[Samoht]

Originally Posted by iruinedyourday [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

But on blue, anything else, raiding included is only 0.001% of the game.

i'm pretty sure you made this statistic up only to justify your point of view. if you're a level 60 and not interested in alts, sometimes you might only log in for bat phones making raiding more than 99% of your game (the other 1% is reserved for ports to get to raids).

Originally Posted by fastboy21 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

my two most "class defining" were the bard and the wizard..

haha. nope. wizard epic is just barely above necro on the rankings best to worst.

[fastboy21]

I wasn't trying to win a debate...its just chatting. So edgy p

You're right that itemization in future expansions (unfairly) cut the life or usefullness of the certain epics out early...but the fact is that bards were still holding on to their epics years after most classes had put them into bags or bank slots. Top gear PoP bards, when you picture them, are still holding that singing short sword (until PoP drop from inny)...so you associate the item with bards more because they had it for much longer than most classes in their hands.

Also, the bard epic happens to just look very very cool =P

As for my love of the wizard epic, I already said that I'm very partial because I played a wiz on live and that was my first epic ever. First love, etc.

[Cecily]

I'm not saying you are. Just other people aren't agreeing with my bias towards rogue epic, which is the best epic, and therefore thread is wrong and silly.

[Samoht]

1. Bard - no other epic is as class changing or offers as much diversity as the bard epic moving bards from mana batteries to front line fighters
2. Cleric - streamlines one of the class defining features and makes it manaless
3. Rogue - high backstabs, check, haste, check, AP buff, check
4. Ranger - like a rogue, without backstabs
5. Magician - revolutionary pet, but pets are only a percentage of what mages do considering nukes, rods, and coth
6. Warrior - one of the best taunt procs in game OR one of the best 2h DPS weapons in game. neat gimmick.
7. Paladin - taunt proc isn't class defining, but it's good. have stuns from other sources.
8. Monk - magic fists that you can click for haste when no other haste is available. that's cool.
9. Druid - a dot click for soloing with a snare component
10. Shaman - a dot click for soloing with no snare
11. Enchanter - they have the opposite problem of the cleric. haste is nice, but VoG has better stats and WR is faster. the spell also has stacking problems, but you will still cast it a lot on raids
12. Wizard - the mana regen and shield are nice, but are both kind of insignificant in combat
13. ShadowKnight - probably most useful for its 2h bash, but then only really benefits races without slam
14. Necromancer - it's a free snare/dot, but they already get snare/dots and it does not stack with root