IB and TMO are Skilled at Raiding - Debunked

[radda]

Originally Posted by Man0warr [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I killed every raid mob in Velious before Luclin dropped outside of AoW, 1 Warden, and Vulak.

i doubt this, but what proof do you have?
you do know none of your past life matters? we've all done this before..

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[Detoxx]

Originally Posted by Man0warr [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Your numbers keep going up, we have never had 70 people at any raid as far as I know - I think we had in the low 60s for the last Sunday server repop.

I'd hardly consider that VS we failed a "wipe", since we got hit by 40 mobs from behind from the other guild's bard trains. But that's FFA VS in a nutshell.

I don't care if all of kc was on you. They are all stunnable, all aoe snareable and all level 47 mobs. VS has what? 18k hp? If you can't burn down a vs with 50 people while 2 enc aoe stun, that's because you lack the wherewithal and leadership to do so.

[skipdog]

Originally Posted by Man0warr [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Training around zones is exactly why we don't want to "compete" in Class C.

That is the #1 tactic for everything in your class:

Train/root all the trash on the way to VS with bards, kill it then run out/gate/wipe your competition.

Train all the mobs in Fear so you can kill CT, kill it then camp NWall/gate/wipe your competition.

Train all the mobs in Hate so you can kill Inny, kill it then gate/wipe your competition.

Train shit around in VP.

The only places this isn't your go to tactic is the open world mobs, which when you can't leverage your superior "tactics" you regularly get beaten to mobs by IB/Taken.

rofl classic BDA member who eats up all the bullshit his guild's leaders feed him...

[Ravager]

Originally Posted by skipdog [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

rofl classic BDA member who eats up all the bullshit his guild's leaders feed him...

It's one thing to believe what you're told. It's another to see it first hand.

[Man0warr]

Originally Posted by ClownGuild [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

No. You just don't understand those zones' mechanics it seems. As I said I will try to get a program together for your guys since Kunark is almost over I am sure we won't mind mentoring you guys on mobs that are soon to be obsolete to us since you guys won't be seeing much Velious content.

I understand it's needed in VP (we cleared all of VP, remember? We diverted trains all around to do those pulls, wasn't difficult at all if you can setup in pillow room.) since the respawn is so short.

Like I said, I understand why it's done in the other zones I listed too - there's no point trying to kill all the mobs in the way if you are just going to get leapfrogged. But that's a big reason why we don't want to be in Class C.

[skipdog]

Originally Posted by Ravager [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

It's one thing to believe what you're told. It's another to see it first hand.

By 'believe it' you mean, be in a raid with Chest and have Chest inform the guild that TMO trained us? Yeah, I saw that first hand plenty of times.

[Man0warr]

Originally Posted by ClownGuild [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Explain to us what you saw like you understood it. I'm sure you saw something and had it harped in your vent by people what was going on when it wasn't reality. Especially if the "Nice Train, Thanks TMO" Chest was doing the talking.

That FFA Inny we killed last month was a classic example. TMO/IB/Taken wiping themselves with trains - all the BDA up there saw it firsthand.

[Man0warr]

Originally Posted by ClownGuild [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You are wrong in why it is done fundamentally.

Whatever you say.

[Man0warr]

I don't think you do either.

[Ella`Ella]

Neither of you lift.