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Old 01-13-2015, 05:50 PM
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What are my best options to farm lots of plats as a 53 Nec? Are there any other options then grinding out seafurys, IG or HG? I remember Seb being a good place to farm for gems on live but is soloing even possible there for a 53 nec?

I really dont have the patience to buy/sell in EC, i fear i will only loose cash there in the long run [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I figure i wont spend any cash on alts untill i get my hands on a fungi but 65k seems far far away at the moment...

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seafuries.

everything else suggested is false
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Old 01-13-2015, 06:08 PM
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seafuries.

everything else suggested is false
I agree if you can find em up!
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Old 01-13-2015, 06:27 PM
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A couple of things:

1. I have not complained about anything. I simply described the role resellers play and the fact that I like the meta game that players have created. You appear to have either misunderstood this or intentionally misconstrued it with the straw man you cleverly debunked with your ad hominem. If I was unclear, then I apologize. I am not looking to wander in circles ^^
You stated the positive effects of resellers is that they bring fluidity to the market. Indirectly complaining that not having resellers would be undesirable. Then, you state that you wouldnt want global ooc/auction because it would bring more fluidity to the market. Can't have it both ways. Dont make me repeat myself again.

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2. I also pointed out that resellers exert both positive and negative influences on prices and suggested it is not possible to determine the net effect. You ignored this.
I didn't ignore it. I'm clearly stating that the net effect can be determined and the outcome is a negative impact of inflated prices by resale transactions that don't benefit the majority of the server.

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3. Please elaborate on how and more importantly why we should alter market driven prices. Prior to that however, please explain how we might and ought to determine the truth of your assertion that prices are indeed artificially inflated. Artificially inflated relative to what?
We ALREADY are altering market drive price through resale transactions. If you want truth to my assertion go study economics. I'm not providing tutoring you can come up with the answer yourself.

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4. Related to 3, you suggest that new players are negatively impacted. What if they enjoy reselling? What if they choose to camp an item of value?
The population affected by new players reselling is trivial or non-existent (depending on how you define 'new player'). I don't believe many people buy and resell items with values below 50pp as it doesn't seem worth anybody's time doing so.

If they choose to camp an item of value has no bearing as the real value (not nominal value) of the item will be maintained.


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How might we lessen their burden and what effect would it have on others. You have also mentioned ethics several times. Is it ethical to effect change that adversely affects one population in favor of another?

Also, please note that questions are not arguments.
I've already stated a possible solution. Refer back methods of bringing fluidity to the market without resellers (global ooc/auction and other possible solutions).

Is it ethical? Absolutely, refer back to my analogy. The courts/legislation do it all the time to prevent monopolies and other unfair methods of obtaining profit unethically. It affects one population in favor of another.

Think about your questions before you ask them by the way... I don't want to repeat myself.

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Also, please note that questions are not arguments.
Also would like to add that I ask questions because it helps people come up with the answer for themselves.
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Old 01-13-2015, 07:09 PM
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We ALREADY are altering market drive price through resale transactions. If you want truth to my assertion go study economics. I'm not providing tutoring you can come up with the answer yourself.

Think about your questions before you answer them by the way... I don't want to repeat myself.
Wow. Amazingly arrogant posts and serious misunderstanding of economics (not just from this guy). Not to mention the fact that this is a video game...
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Old 01-13-2015, 07:14 PM
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Wow. Amazingly arrogant posts and serious misunderstanding of economics (not just from this guy). Not to mention the fact that this is a video game...
Nice slander with no proof or statements to back up anything you just said. Well written. A+

P.S. This isn't RNF.
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Old 01-13-2015, 07:22 PM
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Nice slander with no proof or statements to back up anything you just said. Well written. A+
I think the quote I included backed up the arrogance quite well personally.

But honestly, I'm busy doing real economic research right now, and, if I'm lucky, I will enjoy playing the game later tonight in my spare time. You can have your opinions; others can have theirs. I could bring up a lot of simple points. But what would I expect to accomplish exactly? You must take this all much more seriously than I do. I'll leave you to it.
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Old 01-13-2015, 07:30 PM
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I'm at my job. I'm about to leave. It's slow around here at the moment.
I was referring to the OP
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Old 01-13-2015, 07:41 PM
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Old 01-13-2015, 07:42 PM
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I vote that you create the "Dial a Corpse" guild...

In all seriousness, as a necro you can make money lots of ways. Pick something that is fun for you. If you like exp'ing then don't spend all your time trying to flip items in the EC tunnel. If you like grping don't spend all your time solo'ing in HS. Its a game...play to have fun imo.
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Old 01-13-2015, 08:16 PM
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I think the quote I included backed up the arrogance quite well personally.

But honestly, I'm busy doing real economic research right now, and, if I'm lucky, I will enjoy playing the game later tonight in my spare time. You can have your opinions; others can have theirs. I could bring up a lot of simple points. But what would I expect to accomplish exactly? You must take this all much more seriously than I do. I'll leave you to it.
Arrogance? This coming from the person who claims they are all knowing but doesn't make any legitimate points. Okay buddy, you have fun with your "real economic research".
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