Get rid of LnS

[Buhbuh]

Originally Posted by Andis [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

would have to agree here

people in azrael not allowed to call lns so

work on it

No way, if any guild even starts to lose a mass PvP fight, they call LnS to rush to the next mob before the other guild finishes the encounter they're on. Azrael did this. Nihilum did it. It's blue as fuck. No repercussions for coming at a guild and losing. Shouldn't be able to LnS until the raid mob is slain, but it's an easy/ ridiculous loophole right now.

Start losing a mass fight, call LnS. Guilds should be held down and fucked imo. It builds character, makes you have to really think strategically. If you come at a guild raid with a force, you better win the fight. There's just no real danger right now, unless you lose in somewhere like VP.

[Jib]

well, OP calls lns then breaks lns then cries about lns in game, then cries on forums about taking away lns.

This is a pvp server, its pretty straight forward. If you can't handle it blue server might be a better alternative.

[maerilith]

wenz last tiem somewun waz bant for lns violazionts? prob last year

[Derubael]

Lot's of suspensions get handed out for LnS violations. These count as infractions on your account and end up adding to your # of days suspended for subsequent violations. This stacks up pretty quickly.

As a side note, one of the biggest issues with LnS right now that makes it difficult for us to enforce is all the asshats trying to bait others into suspensions and then posting selective screenshots in petition threads in an attempt to fuck over someone they don't like. I've been seeing this way too much and it needs to stop. If I ever see a petition that I know definitively without a doubt is an attempt to screw someone over by misrepresenting events or straight up lying/making shit up, it's likely they'll get a permanent ban on, at minimum, the account shown in the petition... if not all of their accounts. Maliciously baiting your opponent into violating LnS and then submitting screenshots framed and selected to highlight the violation but exclude your provoking/baiting is a common example of how this is abused.

It's a waste of CSR time and makes it more difficult to help people actually getting screwed over. If you find yourself repeatedly having your LnS violated, and you know you are doing it properly (communicating it clearly, making sure everyone in each zone you go to is aware of your intentions, etc) I highly recommend downloading OBS (Open Broadcasting Software) for its offline recording feature. It takes up hardly any system resources at all (especially compared to fraps) and works just as well. The only downside is that you need to remember to turn it on, which shouldn't be difficult if the problem is as prevalent and widespread as some claim it to be.

[snufzaimoverlord]

Originally Posted by Derubael [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Lot's of suspensions get handed out for LnS violations. These count as infractions on your account and end up adding to your # of days suspended for subsequent violations. This stacks up pretty quickly.

As a side note, one of the biggest issues with LnS right now that makes it difficult for us to enforce is all the asshats trying to bait others into suspensions and then posting selective screenshots in petition threads in an attempt to fuck over someone they don't like. I've been seeing this way too much and it needs to stop. If I ever see a petition that I know definitively without a doubt is an attempt to screw someone over by misrepresenting events or straight up lying/making shit up, it's likely they'll get a permanent ban on, at minimum, the account shown in the petition... if not all of their accounts. Maliciously baiting your opponent into violating LnS and then submitting screenshots framed and selected to highlight the violation but exclude your provoking/baiting is a common example of how this is abused.

It's a waste of CSR time and makes it more difficult to help people actually getting screwed over. If you find yourself repeatedly having your LnS violated, and you know you are doing it properly (communicating it clearly, making sure everyone in each zone you go to is aware of your intentions, etc) I highly recommend downloading OBS (Open Broadcasting Software) for its offline recording feature. It takes up hardly any system resources at all (especially compared to fraps) and works just as well. The only downside is that you need to remember to turn it on, which shouldn't be difficult if the problem is as prevalent and widespread as some claim it to be.

Enforce Guild LNS calls, otherwise solo LNS rules should only apply to levels 1-55, 56-60 peeps are big boys and can just log out for awhile or whatnot.

[snufzaimoverlord]

Most of the baiters are level 60 scrubs also, so would cut down on all the wasted time sifting through that mess of petitionquest.

[vouss]

Yeah I think enforcing guild LnS to LnS would be a GOOD IDEA, trashed holo a couple days in a row now in KC and it's such a mess afterwards. People trying to LnS, people who I don't even know trying to tell me the guild IS LnS'ing, then the officers refusing to call LnS for their guild but just telling me to "do the right thing", or be "less of a faggot", which I would have to assume would be denying guild LnS until it's called.

THen mix in a bunch of snakes trying to loop hole their way into suspensions, pvp'ing, and winning is a headache imo

[Nirgon]

Winning has been a pretty big head ache yes

Gotta agree

[heartbrand]

there's no penalty for dying who cares? You lose literally nothing. Dunno why people get so worked up about it.

[JayN]

EQ pvp sure is awesome! wait amin....