People here for classic experience...?

[iruinedyourday]

Originally Posted by Glenzig [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

There is a flaw in your logic.
Red has a 50% bonus for solo. The worst you'll ever do on red as a solo class is -10%. Sorry. It would be -18%. Still not bad.

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I didnt do red becuse of everything daldaen says, except for the reason why I didnt do red.

I didnt do red becuse I dont have a lot of time, ill be damned if im going to spend that time pvping when other people want to force me to pvp... Its that simple!

but that said I wish i could elect to pvp [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[Glenzig]

Originally Posted by iruinedyourday [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I didnt do red becuse of everything daldaen says, except for the reason why I didnt do red.

I didnt do red becuse I dont have a lot of time, ill be damned if im going to spend that time pvping when other people want to force me to pvp... Its that simple!

but that said I wish i could elect to pvp [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

"Red is so under populated that there isn't even anyone to group with."

"All the zones are empty. They only have like 50 people."

"If I tried to solo, I would be forced to pvp all the time and never get any XP."

Obviously on such an empty server there are people waiting in every zone to kill you just for daring to be there. Seriously. Its not that bad.

[GnashingOfTeeth]

For OP

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[bloodmuffin]

Start red, solo/duo till around 15-20. Finally get to the point where people are grouping more often. Spend a lot of time LFG, finally get one. Fungi Twink comes in, wipes group with a high level buffing/healing him, half if not everyone leaves group due to CR. Repeat process for the next couple days until into early 20's.

Solo till 30. Couple even battles, was fun trying to hold my camps from an occasional druid, got bored and tried groups again.

30-40 Finally able to put up a decent fight against certain twinks, people finally stopped leaving after a PK. Twink with pocket healer spends the next 3 or so days trying to gank our CoM group full of newbies, plugs when we get him low. Brags about making us losing XP due to dealing with him every 10 minutes. Twink remains in CoM for the next couple days being the typical PvP braggart.

40-46 Solo/Duo. Had a blast, found a great duo partner. Started getting some decent gear but found just the two of us doing everything either duo or by ourselves or with one extra.

Made it to 52 then gave all my stuff away. Was an okay experience. Found myself just going after loot and looking for groups much like I did on Blue. Didn't see my duo buddy on anymore after 50's, he was pretty grumpy about lack of items in trade or trades in general, returned to blue.

Toke/Hengrey, great adventure and struggle! Unfortunately we encountered just about every single racist piece of shit/douchebag on the server but that's red for ya. I left you a Pm for my blue toons. cheers!

[Glenzig]

Originally Posted by bloodmuffin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Found myself just going after loot and looking for groups much like I did on Blue. Didn't see my duo buddy on anymore after 50's, he was pretty grumpy about lack of items in trade or trades in general, returned to blue.

Seems like you had the right mentality. Expecting Red to be just like Blue, but with pvp.

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[bloodmuffin]

Originally Posted by Glenzig [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Seems like you had the right mentality. Expecting Red to be just like Blue, but with pvp.

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I enjoyed the PvP aspect don't get me wrong. I just needed resist gear to compete and levels to gain that competitive edge so I was stuck in that limbo. I wandered off to have some PvP and found it numerous places with both groups and solo but eventually got pretty boring being where I was at. What else more was there to do?

Funny you should mention my expectations, I had the idea that Red was outright death and constant combat where ever you went, where you could just log on and find some good combat. Once I started here people and groups were extremely friendly and welcoming, carebear status. The closer you got towards 50 though, the more you had people opting out of groups to farm or make plat just like blue, greed started to set in for some, people avoiding popular zones due to PvP. We had active leveling groups, people questing, Power leveling, waiting for planar raids, yet no PvP groups. PvP was an inconvenience to most of those guys.

So from what I've experienced yes, Red is just like Blue but with PvP.

[LulzSect]

Red gets a bad rap but the truth is we don't give a fuck what class you are. If I (CLR) need a slot filled for a group, come on down. Fuck that elitist blue min/max nerd mentality bullshit.

[Swish]

Originally Posted by LulzSect [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

come on down

[Randy]

The population is top heavy on Blue. Before Kunark it was pretty spread out. But post 50 is a decent time sync to level so if you aren't a hardcore player it takes some time so a lot more people are there and the population below 50 is pretty small and spread out. Not that I play much on there but with the size of the red population, I don't see it being any better

[HallyVee]

My classic experience consisted of being handed Wurmslayer at level 5ish, sometime before Luclin.
So for me refusing twinking and power leveling is pretty classic.
Although it does bother me that with a few hours of farming money I could obviate the next six tiers of weapons, due to the top heavy market, it is par for the course.