Naming Policy

[HippoNipple]

Everyone should just grow up and pick an animal body part as their name like me.

[purist]

ITT:

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[Lazortag]

Alawen, you are being incredibly obtuse. You first made a really long post saying that IB had violated the [character] naming policy with their copyrighted name. You then posted overly thorough reasoning defending this position, even showing that it couldn't be a coincidence because of the spelling, as if anyone was plausibly going to deny that:

Originally Posted by Alawen Everywhere [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

There is a blatant and unavoidable example of these naming violations well-known and obvious to everyone on this server.

Failure to act on that particular violation will clearly demonstrate favoritism on the part of the developers and administrators of this server, inequality in the application of the rules of the server and an overall corrupt server environment.

"Inglourious Basterds" is a 2009 American film written and directed by Quentin Tarantino. The Inglourious Basterds guild website found at http://ib.guildlaunch.com/ makes use of (copyrighted) imagery and music from the film.

The unusual spelling of the guild name and use of elements directly from the movie make it impossible to deny that the guild Inglourious Basterds has taken its name from the movie. This is inarguably analogous to having guilds with names like "Star Trek: The Next Generation", "World of Warcraft", "Coldplay: Parachutes", "New York Times", "Daytona 500" or "Facebook".

The integrity of this naming policy, the server staff, the server itself and the gaming community of Project 1999 dictates that the guild Inglourious Basterds be renamed. Any other action will demonstrate that this policy is only applicable to individual users with no political power on the server and not to large raiding guilds whose guild leader is a member of the development staff.

Edit: Fixed link.

This was fine at first because it was clear that you just misunderstood that the character naming policy applied to characters, not guilds, and that the clause at the end was just to specify that the guides have the power to change really bad guild names too:

Above all else, you may not choose character or guild name which, in the sole and absolute discretion of the Project 1999 Customer Service Staff, is deemed to be offensive or improper.

I can understand someone taking issue with the use of the word "improper" here, because what constitutes an "improper" guild name is undefined - but that's no reason to assume that "improper" means "in violation of the CHARACTER naming policy", which someone else suggested. If a guide made this suggestion I'm sure you'd all be outraged at their own selective interpretation of the word "improper".

So I clarified what should have been a matter of simple english and reading comprehension here:

Originally Posted by Lazortag [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The policy is about character names, not guild names. The only restriction on guild names is that they can't be offensive.

To which you responded with something that totally ignored my post:

Originally Posted by Alawen

"Help, I've fallen and I can't get up!"

Yes, we've all seen the commercials. Life Alert® is a registered trademark of Life Alert Emergency Response, Inc. While not as prominent as Inglourious Basterds, the guild name Life Alert also has no place on Project 1999. Naming a guild "Life Alert" is analogous to naming a guild "Kaiser Permanente", "Oxycontin" or "Gastric Bypass".

We all understand the naming rules and most of us understood them ten years ago. Some of us thought it would be cute or funny or cool or sexy to have the only anachronistic pop culture reference or cursing or lewd double entendre.

If the intention is to clean up the server for a genuine classic feeling, the same rules should be applied equally. That means "Inglourious Basterds" and "Life Alert" need to be changed along with "Gandalf" and "Justin Bieber".

And then again:

Originally Posted by Alawen Everywhere [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I would say that rule of law versus rule of man is very much more than a mole hill. I would also say that you are making it very clear that equal justice does not apply on Project 1999, which is, of course, something you are clearly entitled to do. It is, at the end of the day, your sandbox, and you can make whatever arbitrary rules and rulings you so choose about who gets to play, with what and for how long.

I've said my piece.

And then again:

Originally Posted by Alawen Everywhere [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

That sounds fine, Starklen. Rename Inglourious Basterds and I will accept a random elf name chosen by the staff.

Yet at no point did you ever respond to my assertion that the character naming policy applied just to characters. You just made another overly thorough post showing that LifeAlert is copyrighted (really? I totally didn't know that) as if that was somehow relevant. You then made two other posts basically restating the same stupid point that was already responded to (and at one point even clarified by the one who wrote the policy) - that there's somehow a double standard because Inglourious Basterds and LifeAlert aren't going to get renamed under the new policy, which displays your complicate misunderstanding of what the policy is targeted at.

Now that I've made my own TLDR post to thoroughly respond to everything you've said, can you please drop it and admit that you were being silly the whole time?

[nalkin]

I think I get what Alawen is saying and I think I pretty much agree, although let me say that, as pretty much always, I don't really care that much one way or the other.

What is the reason of this whole naming policy thing? Is it to enhance immersion or to get rid of any racist or slanderous names? If its the latter why not just get rid of those names and let the funny phrase names be able to stay. So really the reason behind it must be to make us feel like we are really in elf land even though we are taking dumps in fecefied socks.

Basically any reason as to why they are doing this policy, logically must include that the guild names should be changed to fit accordingly. Why change someones funny phrase name and make it an elf name when there is going to be a "Life Alert", or "IB" tag right below their name? (No I don't want the name Life Alert or IB changed, just using them as an example). Logically, whatever their reason is its contradictory.

That said, I don't care what happens, I'm not mad at the devs or anyone or whatever.

[Tokum-6n0m3]

Originally Posted by nalkin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

What is the reason of this whole naming policy thing? Is it to enhance immersion or to get rid of any racist or slanderous names? If its the latter why not just get rid of those names and let the funny phrase names be able to stay.

I think they loosely worded it for one simple reason, they dont really care about the funny names, but for instance i planned on being Tokum Someherb, now this name isnt racist at all, and to most people wouldn't be offensive, however if they received a petition about it, from someone who's son was shot by a pot-head, they'd remove it, and cause i know the name policy, I wouldn't have a reason to complain about it.......

They're covering there asses. You guys complain to much.....

[ryuut1]

Names of religious, occult, or significant historic origin (e.g. Jesus, Allah, Satan, Stalin).


is this unfair to people who's names are Jesus? the guy who does my lawn is named jesus.

[ryuut1]

Originally Posted by Estu [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I'm all for it. My characters all have valid names according to the policy as is. While it's not an RP server, I'm tired of seeing characters with retarded names like 'tits' and 'shithead' running around. Granted, some of them are clever and funny rather than just being mouthbreathingly profane, but I can totally see the appeal of a server with all believable names. The idea that this would be some kind of last straw for people thinking of quitting the server is pretty hilarious. Not that people wouldn't leave because of this policy, just that it's such a dumb thing to leave over.

On the subject of character selling, yeah, I find it pretty tasteless. That and power leveling (the hardcore kind, not the buffing-lowbies-at-orc-lift kind). I wouldn't mind if they were banned as well.

Because Jorklach Kebantik Treeslayer is such a believable and reasonable name.

[druziil]

I know i would be pissed if i lost my name. I've used this name since 2001 (before i played Everquest or even knew there was a Druzil in the EQ universe) for almost every internet function that required a user name, even at one point on EQ live.

[ryuut1]

Originally Posted by Lazortag [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Alawen, you are being incredibly obtuse.

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[Alawen Everywhere]

Nalkin gets it; Lazortag never will.

I really don't care about appropriate names. I've never participated in any of the name nazi antics. I don't really care if my name gets changed. I am super amused that Starklen immediately launched into google to search for my randomly generated elf name.

My entire point is consistency and even a vague semblance of fairness. I like Cyrius and I think Uthgaard is alright, too, but they both are taking the server farther in the direction of "because I said so", which I personally consider a mistake. Without the player base, this server is just another personal playground in that long list of emulator servers we all ignore every time we launch the software.

Maybe you don't think that can happen here. You would be wrong.