Class R

[Nukehard]

Originally Posted by Lazie [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

We all knew it was coming. Ride the Class R gravy train till trak gives up enough teeth...Then ask VP to be changed to FFA.

Ikr, pretty sad if you ask me... If you want VP go kill a fucking class c mob and become class c, so simple frunds. Pras clan borf, class c frunds.

[TMBLOW]

Originally Posted by quido [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

So compete for one mob a week or whatever. That's about what you're getting currently anyways right?

You could always throw in an argument for a reduced variance. I get the feeling most people in Class C are tired of the windows as they are.

So you dont even have an answer to the question I posed which you felt didnt deserve to be posed due to your wonderful and insightful list.

My point exactly.

Until there is a way for class R guilds to 'sell' to their members a trip to Class C as something that wont be permanent and binding because they can do XYZ if it doesnt work out.

It will never happen.

But continue to cite the fact its about free easy kills and handouts why they dont change.

[Lazie]

Here is an idea for repops. Keep the mobs in VP Class C...Put the 2 kill bag limit in place for Class C guilds in VP on repops.... This puts 2 mobs on repops Class R guilds can choose or not choose to go after (Practice in VP). If they choose not to then Class C still kills them when the bag limit timer runs out. However keep the penalty that they have to go to Class C if they kill one of those mobs.

[BurgyK]

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[TMBLOW]

Originally Posted by Lazie [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Here is an idea for repops. Keep the mobs in VP Class C...Put the 2 kill bag limit in place for Class C guilds in VP on repops.... This puts 2 mobs on repops Class R guilds can choose or not choose to go after (Practice in VP). If they choose not to then Class C still kills them when the bag limit timer runs out. However keep the penalty that they have to go to Class C if they kill one of those mobs.

again, Class R doesnt want VP handouts lol

I think most would like the opportunity to test the waters, but still have a way to not throw their guild charters out the window bc they engaged a VP dragon and won

if there's language somewhere that leadership can show its members if stuff doesnt work out whether be burnout/turnover/failure/cant compete etc etc that they can return to Class R and thusly return to building their progression at the slower pace it experienced before graduating to C....

it will happen.

[Lazie]

Originally Posted by TMBLOW [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

again, Class R doesnt want VP handouts lol

I think most would like the opportunity to test the waters, but still have a way to not throw their guild charters out the window bc they engaged a VP dragon and won

if there's language somewhere that leadership can show its members if stuff doesnt work out whether be burnout/turnover/failure/cant compete etc etc that they can return to Class R and thusly return to building their progression at the slower pace it experienced before graduating to C....

it will happen.

What ? Go read the raid forums. THat is exactly what they asked for except they want VP to change from Class C to FFA on the sim repops so they don't have to swap classes if they kill them. My proposal is fair. It gives 2 Class C mobs left untouched for the duration of the bag limit. Heck 2 repops a month =4 kills for any guild that takes that path. It's pretty rewarding for anyone making the step up. But it has the penalty of being Class C and no longer eligible for the rotation.

[Pint]

Originally Posted by Heebo [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Hey, I'm with you. I can't believe the tactics being used today. They're a result of an enormously overbearing set of unclassic rules imposed on this server. The solution is more content (velious) not more rules and bylaws to hand yourselves VP dragons.

Yea we can't believe ppl are stooping to these levels either, bring back 5 day variance, tactics from that era were awesome!

[TMBLOW]

Originally Posted by Lazie [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

What ? Go read the raid forums. THat is exactly what they asked for except they want VP to change from Class C to FFA on the sim repops so they don't have to swap classes if they kill them. My proposal is fair. It gives 2 Class C mobs left untouched for the duration of the bag limit. Heck 2 repops a month =4 kills for any guild that takes that path. It's pretty rewarding for anyone making the step up. But it has the penalty of being Class C and no longer eligible for the rotation.

Its an interesting idea but

this is what is funny about your Class C mindset, killing VP mobs and becoming Class C is referred to as a PENALTY. As a negative!!!

The attitude is: ha ha ur now class C, suck it no more handouts lolz

The attitude should be: damn, they beat us to the dragon. GG

Having VP be FFA on repops would allow for some amazing RnF....

[Heebo]

Originally Posted by Pint [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Yea we can't believe ppl are stooping to these levels either, bring back 5 day variance, tactics from that era were awesome!

Originally Posted by Heebo [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I never said 96 hour variance was classic. I'm not sure why you felt the need to bring it up as that was exactly my point - unclassic rules being put into place to try to solve the raid scene when only new content can do that.

[Lazie]

Originally Posted by TMBLOW [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Its an interesting idea but

this is what is funny about your Class C mindset, killing VP mobs and becoming Class C is referred to as a PENALTY. As a negative!!!

The attitude is: ha ha ur now class C, suck it no more handouts lolz

The attitude should be: damn, they beat us to the dragon. GG

Having VP be FFA on repops would allow for some amazing RnF....

No in this case Killing in Class C is a positive. Changing to Class C is a positive now also. For instance when a Class C guild has a bad week they still kill 3 or 4 mobs that week. On top of those numbers you are now guaranteed 2 kills per repop in VP. It also wouldn't make amazing RNF. Class R guilds would simply wait until TMO/IB had killed their 2 in there and then kill what was left. It's a pointless change to go FFA on repops in VP. Make it carry weight. Have those mobs there alive begging to be killed and have a price for killing them