Rules Lawyers: the Myconid Spore King

[iruinedyourday]

this whole concept is ridiculous imo. If someone is killing the PH just move on and find a new camp.

If you try to justify you picking a different spot and pulling the same PH and think you are good and right, you are just justifying yourself being a douche bag.

Once I was 'looking at shit' for a few minuets trying to 'enjoy classic eq' waiting on an AC spawn that I had timed, some dude rolled up and argued with me and tried to KS the AC saying that the camp was open.

Gimi a break people, is this really how you want it to be? This all reeks of that same type of bad personality disorder.

[Ele]

Originally Posted by iruinedyourday [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

this whole concept is ridiculous imo. If someone is killing the PH just move on and find a new camp.

If you try to justify you picking a different spot and pulling the same PH and think you are good and right, you are just justifying yourself being a douche bag.

Once I was 'looking at shit' for a few minuets trying to 'enjoy classic eq' waiting on an AC spawn that I had timed, some dude rolled up and argued with me and tried to KS the AC saying that the camp was open.

Gimi a break people, is this really how you want it to be? This all reeks of that same type of bad personality disorder.

Your AC scenario is an entirely different concept. This thread isn't arguing to steal the king ph pull if the group is afk when it spawns and sitting in the same or second tube room, but instead moving up and killing the surrounding mobs and taking over the camp closer to the spawn point.

In your scenario, if the AC/ph hadn't spawned, then the guy had zero legitimate claim to make against you. If it had spawned and you happened to be AFK, then he by all rights could kill the PH/AC.

[iruinedyourday]

Originally Posted by Ele [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Your AC scenario is an entirely different concept. This thread isn't arguing to steal the king ph pull if the group is afk when it spawns and sitting in the same or second tube room, but instead moving up and killing the surrounding mobs and taking over the camp closer to the spawn point.

In your scenario, if the AC/ph hadn't spawned, then the guy had zero legitimate claim to make against you. If it had spawned and you happened to be AFK, then he by all rights could kill the PH/AC.

what Im saying is, if in any situation where you are in the middle of killing someones PH and they are like, 'hey what are you doing' and you don't give up the camp back to the person camping the thing becuse maybe thier dog spilled water, or they had to pee real bad or any number of RL things come up, you're a jerk!

If 2 friends get online to do the king camp together and they are having a good time and you swoop in for whatever reason and start spouting off all this lawering crap, yer a jerk.

just be cool, man

[Korben]

Why the fuck do we always have to break the law book out? 3 people are constantly killing whatever they're after for hours on end, why should you feel like it's your right to move in and take shit from them just because you have 6 people and can sit closer? I seriously don't understand the sense of inherent entitlement people feel they have here.

Oh, hey folks, I see you guys have been consistently killing this mob and are using your knowledge of pull/game mechanics to your advantage, but if you don't mind would you kindly go fuck yourself because me and my 5 friends are going to brute force this trivial encounter. THAT will surely show everybody who is right.

[texwilly]

Originally Posted by Korben [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Why the fuck do we always have to break the law book out? 3 people are constantly killing whatever they're after for hours on end, why should you feel like it's your right to move in and take shit from them just because you have 6 people and can sit closer? I seriously don't understand the sense of inherent entitlement people feel they have here.

Oh, hey folks, I see you guys have been consistently killing this mob and are using your knowledge of pull/game mechanics to your advantage, but if you don't mind would you kindly go fuck yourself because me and my 5 friends are going to brute force this trivial encounter. THAT will surely show everybody who is right.

Great conversations going on here. I was originally against the "snipe" pulling technique, thinking along with the OP that a full group clearing the area, camping legitimately "nearer" the spawn, should have priority. I think I was siding this way due to the frustrations of the camp being consistently occupied by this style of group for the past few months (king groups have all but disappeared).

I believe I have seen the light from the above quote. I have changed teams for sure.

[Korben]

Originally Posted by texwilly [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Great conversations going on here. I was originally against the "snipe" pulling technique, thinking along with the OP that a full group clearing the area, camping legitimately "nearer" the spawn, should have priority. I think I was siding this way due to the frustrations of the camp being consistently occupied by this style of group for the past few months (king groups have all but disappeared).

I believe I have seen the light from the above quote. I have changed teams for sure.

If an individual feels that taking a spawn from somebody else who is consistently clearing that one spawn is appropriate, JUST because the law book technically says they can, I feel bad for them because they are not a decent person.

If someone is spending their time killing a spawn every 30 minutes in a consistent and reliable manner, all common decency would suggest that you move on and find something else to do, not bring more friends than they have and be a horrible cunt by taking from them the one thing they are camping.

[Ele]

Originally Posted by Korben [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Why the fuck do we always have to break the law book out? 3 people are constantly killing whatever they're after for hours on end, why should you feel like it's your right to move in and take shit from them just because you have 6 people and can sit closer? I seriously don't understand the sense of inherent entitlement people feel they have here.

Oh, hey folks, I see you guys have been consistently killing this mob and are using your knowledge of pull/game mechanics to your advantage, but if you don't mind would you kindly go fuck yourself because me and my 5 friends are going to brute force this trivial encounter. THAT will surely show everybody who is right.

Should the tube group sniping King/PH be able to prevent anyone else from camping jail/shrooms even though they are not touching any of those mobs?

[Korben]

Originally Posted by Ele [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Should the tube group sniping King/PH be able to prevent anyone else from camping jail/shrooms even though they are not touching any of those mobs?

Not unless the intended outcome of killing the untouched mobs is to directly interfere with the King/PH group.

[texwilly]

Originally Posted by Korben [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Not unless the intended outcome of killing the untouched mobs is to directly interfere with the King/PH group.

There are worse places to XP in the game. I could honestly see someone clearing it once and zoning out while the tube group is AFK. Upon return, they will likely be very surprised to find a bunch of see-invis repops. Dick move for sure. But it will happen now that everyone knows the weakness to the strat. Continuously messing up the jail area would likely drive the "snipers" out after a few forced re-clears. Theoretically, they would not even be able to maintain a presence at the camp while the PH was up for 5-10 minutes of re-clearing see-invis mobs.

[Korben]

Originally Posted by texwilly [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

There are worse places to XP in the. I could honestly see someone clearing it once and zoning out while the tube group is AFK. Upon return, they will likely be very surprised to find a bunch of see-invis repops. Dick move for sure. But it will happen now that everyone knows the weakness to the strat. Continuously messing up the jail area would likely drive the "snipers" out after a few forced re-clears. Theoretically, they would not even be able to maintain a presence at the camp while the PH was up for 5-10 minutes of re-clearing see-invis mobs.

Sure, I don't see an issue with folks coming by and exping off of mobs nobody is clearing.

I think the root of the issue is if people are doing it for exp, or if they are doing it to be cocks. I always feel the 'don't be a cunt' should apply, and if you're clearing the non see invis mobs JUST to disrupt the sniper group, well... you're disrupting a group for no reason other than to be a jerk and that shouldn't be allowed.

Now if you come down there legitimately to exp, then game on.

I seriously think they need to add the 'don't be a cunt' clause to the rules.