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[KagatobLuvsAnimu]

Originally Posted by Tradesonred [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Well i know racism is a cancer in america

It doesnt take a PHD in STL culture to find something wrong about cops tear gassing cameras

Video footage doesnt lie, i film in Montreal im used to this, media coverage is so bad these days that all you have to do as a citizen to do a better job than corporate media is point a camera at whats going on and roll.

Thats the reason why cops go after citizens filming cop operations, because justice is rotten but those images win the people's court (as you can tell by todays total turn around in cop response to peaceful protests)

The fact i seem more informed than you guys living blocks away tells me you arent interested or dont know how to get access to the raw footage i do

You can start on twitter with the hashtag #ferguson and #nmos14

French fucking Canada. That explains a lot.

Originally Posted by Tradesonred [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Its ironic but as an outsider, visiting twice i felt like i immediately knew what was wrong in the US, hardcore racism hasnt gone away, its just less in your face now.

For example, people will go into forums to let go what they really think instead of going spitting on black protesters like in the 50s and 60s

But the end result being i visited NYC thinking things would have been changed in 2010 (sort of like Montreal where you can have sort of ethnic neighboorhoods but everybodys mingled) to find a city still heavily segregated. And i though if that is the heart of progressive america, i can imagine what its like elsewhere and it doesnt look pretty

Learn to differentiate between classism and racism.

[Rec]

What a surprise, we find out this innocent, unarmed, young, black man was a thug and robbed the store before they shot him.

[iruinedyourday]

Originally Posted by Rec [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

What a surprise, we find out this innocent, unarmed, young, black man was a thug and robbed the store before they shot him.

case and point - heard it on a forum, made his decision.

[Orruar]

Originally Posted by iruinedyourday [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

case and point - heard it on a forum, made his decision.

I think he was speaking about the absurdity of the initial reports of this young man being some kind of paragon of virtue. A good little boy headed to college next year and all. He didn't say anything about whether the police officer's shooting was justified, but rather whether the media portrayal of this man was accurate. But you jumped the gun once again and read far more into his words than is reasonable, only showcasing how you project your own propensity to jump to conclusions.

[iruinedyourday]

Originally Posted by Orruar [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I think he was speaking about the absurdity of the initial reports of this young man being some kind of paragon of virtue. A good little boy headed to college next year and all. He didn't say anything about whether the police officer's shooting was justified, but rather whether the media portrayal of this man was accurate. But you jumped the gun once again and read far more into his words than is reasonable, only showcasing how you project your own propensity to jump to conclusions.

Eh, is it? is that what he was a saying? why if I jump to a conclusion about something someone said, wrong, but if you jump to your own conclusion about what he said right?

Does it even matter? Do you really think that arguing over this petty shit is worth anything at all? Are you just simply being a contrarian?

I'm sure under most circumstances we both agree, but instead of making any head way just trolling back and forth and nitpicking shit and misinterpreting everything each one of us is saying.

[Whirled]

http://www.memes.com/img/87757
George Orwell is laughing his ass off in the next realm.

[Orruar]

Originally Posted by Whirled [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

http://www.memes.com/img/87757
George Orwell is laughing his ass off in the next realm.

How exactly is that Orwellian? Unless the police can set up cameras in our homes, I don't really see the parallel. And I wonder how much of that 88% drop in complaints was due to people not filing frivolous complaints vs. cops acting much more professional because they know they're being watched. I like the idea of more oversight for everyone working for government, including police.

[Tradesonred]

Shit i deal with police officers all the time, its not orwellian to make em wear cameras, why do you think they always go after the cameras during protests? Because they dont want anything incriminating getting out. If every cop knew he was getting filmed while on duty and any citizen could get access to the footage with a freedom of information act request, cop crime would go down dramatically.

[Whirled]

Asking for cameras everywhere is exactly where that leads; that was your parallel.

[Tradesonred]

Originally Posted by Whirled [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Asking for cameras everywhere is exactly where that leads; that was your parallel.

So askin cops to wear em is cameras everywhere how