Selling Epics? Outrageous prices?

[Gaffin 7.0]

alot of dumb, lol bard epic best? gtfo

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Originally Posted by Gaffin 7.0 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

alot of dumb, lol bard epic best? gtfo

Gaffins leveled like 3 rogues to 60 and epic'd them I'd say he's a reliable source to talk about pre and post Epic DPS.

[Gaffin 7.0]

truth havent reached 60 on my 3rd yet tho

[Loke]

Originally Posted by Gaffin 7.0 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

alot of dumb, lol bard epic best? gtfo

Bouncerr (fake Gaffin), stick to what you know. If I wanted advice on how to get rejected by guilds and ultimately banned on a warrior, or how to fake my way into a guild using someone else's name, rest assured you'd be the first person I'd contact.

[Gaffin 7.0]

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[Erydan Ouragan]

Originally Posted by Loke [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Bard epic is arguably the best epic in the game imo, with cleric epic being the only point of contention. Completely game changing for how you play the class and the utility it provides. Anyone who thinks otherwise has no idea what they're talking about and probably has never played a bard to 60.

The bard epic:

Nice stats and resists, but not game changing. Damage? With a 210 cap on dual wield and no double attack, bard melee is laughable, still not game changing.

The proc, then? The proc is very nice. 55% haste +30str/atk. Still not game changing.

So what's left? Well the bard epic acts as an all-instrument with a modifier of 18, including the singing skill.

Here is the thing. It's still not game changing whatsoever. What effect does an 18 modifier on singing? Your snare is a little bit better, your slow is a little bit better, you regen more mana per cast of the level 32 song, it boosts your psalm's damage shield a little bit better. How is that game changing.

You boost the stats of your songs by playing them with the epic, but then, it would be better to simply switch to the corresponding instrument. The brass instrument you buy from a vendor for a couple silver and copper has a better modifier (20) than the epic (18).

So either you don't know what you're talking about or i don't know what i'm talking about.

I'll go with i'm right and you're wrong, unless you can prove otherwise.

[Gaffin 7.0]

if i wanted to know how to be irrelevant to the game, say bards have best benefit epic, sell my accounts and be anon stalker on forums i could do that too

[Loke]

Yes, because the reason you want a 1.8 mod on psalms is for the damage shields...

[iruinedyourday]

What's with this new trend of getting your epic handed to you or level 60 spells for free. Jesus this game isn't hard.

[Kekephee]

Originally Posted by Erydan Ouragan [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The bard epic:

Nice stats and resists, but not game changing. Damage? With a 210 cap on dual wield and no double attack, bard melee is laughable, still not game changing.

The proc, then? The proc is very nice. 55% haste +30str/atk. Still not game changing.

So what's left? Well the bard epic acts as an all-instrument with a modifier of 18, including the singing skill.

Here is the thing. It's still not game changing whatsoever. What effect does an 18 modifier on singing? Your snare is a little bit better, your slow is a little bit better, you regen more mana per cast of the level 32 song, it boosts your psalm's damage shield a little bit better. How is that game changing.

You boost the stats of your songs by playing them with the epic, but then, it would be better to simply switch to the corresponding instrument. The brass instrument you buy from a vendor for a couple silver and copper has a better modifier (20) than the epic (18).

So either you don't know what you're talking about or i don't know what i'm talking about.

I'll go with i'm right and you're wrong, unless you can prove otherwise.

Instead of swapping instruments, you can have one item equipped that gives a modifier to all instrument types. That modifier is 18 vs. 24, which is 180% vs. 240%, which seems like a significant difference until you realize that's the difference between a 48 point dot vs. a 36, 48 str. vs. 36, etc. So the difference is negligible, but you don't have to switch instruments constantly which, when you're twisting 4 songs, taking one second to swap instruments can make you miss your mark and one of your songs will drop- which can be disastrous in a dragon fight when you're twisting resists.


So, yeah, that is literally the definition of game-changing. It literally changes the way you play because you're not having to constantly swap instruments and can twist more songs.