change the color con on target back please!

[Daldaen]

Explain to me why you need to con people you are healing.

If you're healing them, they are likely in your group. If they are in your group, they likely range between +/- 5 levels from your level. If they range +/- 5 levels then their HP relative to yours will be pretty similar. The main difference being gear and class. So knowing their class /who and inspecting them, are far better avenues to assess what amount of healing is necessary.

Or... You could just figure out class/level of everyone when joining the group then spend a few minutes feeling out their HP pools (Or just inspect them and see what kind of gear they have).

I really fail to understand the need for con being listed in your target window.

[Varsha]

Originally Posted by Daldaen [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Explain to me why you need to con people you are healing.

If you're healing them, they are likely in your group. If they are in your group, they likely range between +/- 5 levels from your level. If they range +/- 5 levels then their HP relative to yours will be pretty similar. The main difference being gear and class. So knowing their class /who and inspecting them, are far better avenues to assess what amount of healing is necessary.

Or... You could just figure out class/level of everyone when joining the group then spend a few minutes feeling out their HP pools (Or just inspect them and see what kind of gear they have).

So Im assuming you don't heal people out of your group and you probably try to click your target and keep missing the one you really wanna get? :P

Since we not all 60 here, con is important to see if you healing a green pet or blue/red pet. Why heal a pet? If I know the chanter is next on aggro list, yes I will heal the red pet offtanking a mob ->protecting my chanter. If its green pet, I move to healing the chanter right away cause dmg will come in.

When you get lom, you wanna heal a lightblue target or a red one? Lets say you raid in PoH with some lowbies (like me), as a new player in the community and a cleric, I don't get to spend a few minutes "feeling out" their HP pools. I have to heal HERE AND NOW and be on the ball. So I choose my targets. Triage sucks but its an important part of keeping the core of a raid alive.

So con and cycling can make the difference between someone playing a cleric and someone who is a cleric.


<3 Bring back the con colored box~!

[Thulack]

Originally Posted by Varsha [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

So Im assuming you don't heal people out of your group and you probably try to click your target and keep missing the one you really wanna get? :P

Since we not all 60 here, con is important to see if you healing a green pet or blue/red pet. Why heal a pet? If I know the chanter is next on aggro list, yes I will heal the red pet offtanking a mob ->protecting my chanter. If its green pet, I move to healing the chanter right away cause dmg will come in.

When you get lom, you wanna heal a lightblue target or a red one? Lets say you raid in PoH with some lowbies (like me), as a new player in the community and a cleric, I don't get to spend a few minutes "feeling out" their HP pools. I have to heal HERE AND NOW and be on the ball. So I choose my targets. Triage sucks but its an important part of keeping the core of a raid alive.

So con and cycling can make the difference between someone playing a cleric and someone who is a cleric.


<3 Bring back the con colored box~!

Lol guess Dald's 2 main toons being a druid and cleric he doesn't know what he's talking about.......Or he does and you just giving stupid excuses as to why you need con's in target window. If your have green pets on your raids then someone else is doing something wrong.

[Splorf22]

Originally Posted by Thulack [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Lol guess Dald's 2 main toons being a druid and cleric he doesn't know what he's talking about.......

Nah, he just likes trolling people about the classic ui

I don't see how anyone can seriously argue that the game would be more fun played with it.

[Thulack]

Originally Posted by Splorf22 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Nah, he just likes trolling people about the classic ui

I don't see how anyone can seriously argue that the game would be more fun played with it.

Not fact of game being more fun. Fact of it being more classic. They already took away compass, con colors and other things that are help people for the sake of classic. Why would they not include classic UI.

[Daldaen]

Originally Posted by Splorf22 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Nah, he just likes trolling people about the classic ui

I don't see how anyone can seriously argue that the game would be more fun played with it.

Well, I'll pull a page out of Swish's book and sort of quote the purpose of this server.

Something like "a server to relive the classic EverQuest experience."

People come here for nostalgia. Look helps facilitate that a lot. So does functionality. That UI is something most people identify with as a part of the classic EQ experience.

You like Classic EQ content, though maybe not the classic feeling as much. Cause I'm sure there were no 60 chanters soloing Drusella in classic. Or 60 shamans using puppet strings and 2 rooted pets to solo Sebilite Prot... Your version of fun isn't the same as others.

Plus... I get really tired of people saying how easy crap is with all their non-classic UI features that make the game far more fluid, when it was anything but back then. I'm sure quite a few people's solo artist challenge kills may have failed if they were limited to having a single bag open and limited visibility and a single chat box to watch for spell breaks...

[Varsha]

Originally Posted by Thulack [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Lol guess Dald's 2 main toons being a druid and cleric he doesn't know what he's talking about.......Or he does and you just giving stupid excuses as to why you need con's in target window. If your have green pets on your raids then someone else is doing something wrong.

Dude, like I said I started here 3 months ago. You could be King Hippo and have 5 lvl 60s, I don't care. Its not a testament of your skills, just shows how much time you have invested.

Cons just help as much as knowing the gear people have, buffs they have, class they play. Its another tool in the toolbox.

So yeah maybe Dald is good, I don't know, never played with him, don't know the guy. But I have to admit it doesn't start well when he talks about "failing" to understand the use of con and healing people "likely" in your group. To me that's a patcher.

Still want the con colored box back please <3

[Daldaen]

Healing a pet sounds like a horrible idea...

If the mob doesn't summon, root it, save your mana healing pets and chanters.

If it does summon, get a knight or ranger to aggro it off enchanters (that's kind of their only role on a raid/in a group). Alternatively, use stuns to pull aggro/mitigate damage as a cleric since you can self heal and tank until said enchanter locks the mob down.

Every raid has downtime and you are often medding. Run up to someone, inspect them by right clicking (which may even con them for you) and check out what kind of gear they have. You'll figure out really quick who gets a remedy and who gets a complete heal.

And yes, I play 2 priests. I heal often in raids and occasionally if I group. I never found myself needing a con color indicator. I understand the need to heal here and now, but EQ really isn't a fast paced game. ESPECIALLY P99. You have time before the raid to figure out classes levels and gear quality of those you're raiding with, and if someone new or late arrives you can figure that stuff out in short order. Otherwise just Remedy til the cows come home.

[Lisset]

I don't want to hear any dev say "classic" until they put the boats in oot back the way they were. They're just being selective. Classic isn't nearly as important as drinking tears.

[Pyrocat]

Originally Posted by Lisset [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I don't want to hear any dev say "classic" until they put the boats in oot back the way they were. They're just being selective. Classic isn't nearly as important as drinking tears.

Wow, could you be more ungrateful? They're being selective because they can't fix everything at the same time. They're doing all this work for free, so the argument "well X item isn't classic, how dare they fix Y item to be classic" is not only flawed, but deeply entitled.