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Old 06-18-2014, 05:05 PM
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thief in TMO, lets tell the whole server. Oh and lets tell the server the time when Crazyeyes stole and sold that epic MQ, and remained in guild, with a DKP dock. When epics actually mattered. Hmmm, oh and yeah lets talk about how Fazlazen was auctioning off guild loot and continues to do so. Do you want more similar examples that have been tolerated by this guild? Because I can keep going
Crazyeyes and Fazlazen were/are worth more than you are, that's why they were allowed to stay.
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As I said before, it's irrelevant whether or not the new party is "legitimate." Look, you know I'm not trying to beat you up; we've already made clear our personal stances towards each other amicably, but the issue is misappropriation.

There's two views on this, and what happened is improper under both.

A lot of people are arguing that when Zeelot disbanded and TMO reformed without him that the old guild was dead, and the new one inherited nothing. If that's true then it's dishonest to take the money and run simply because you were left holding it. That's like the treasurer of your book club taking all the cash to buy some sweet ass hardcovers for himself after the club disbands.

In reality, that's what a lot of people would do, but that doesn't make it right.

Alternatively, a lot of us see the current TMO the exact same as the old one because we have many of the same officers and the same guild leader that we did when the old TMO was disbanded. If this is the case, then there is clearly no right to take an item from the bank for pure personal gain.
I would give you 200k for free Xasten. You're my boy and know from how much work I've put into TMO that plat isn't hugely important to me. The sale was a side effect of this sham leader and his cronies pushing the old core out.
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Old 06-18-2014, 05:07 PM
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Crazyeyes and Fazlazen were/are worth more than you are, that's why they were allowed to stay.
Yeah, I out dps'd CE all the time with Kitai in VP. He was decent I guess, good PVPer. Faz, maybe I could agree with you.
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P99 Politics is a curious thing; an EC Robber Baron, A Forum Lawyer, and a Guild Leader. In between them a common neck-beard. Each bids the neck beard to strip and RMT the other two. Who lives, and who gets banned? GM Favoritism resides where men believe it resides. It's a trick. An illusion. A shadow on the wall.

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Old 06-18-2014, 05:09 PM
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Crazyeyes and Fazlazen were/are worth more than you are, that's why they were allowed to stay.
On a more serious note.

CE's situation isn't what you typed out (as jeremy stated)

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The time I remember Faz selling guild items was when he was regearing an account that had been stripped (from someone who said they weren't coming back, but did) and most of it he replaced out of his own pocket. If you're referring to another time, I'd like to hear it.
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Yeah, I out dps'd CE all the time with Kitai in VP. He was decent I guess, good PVPer. Faz, maybe I could agree with you.
CE did much more than just contribute dps on raids, same with Faz.
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Old 06-18-2014, 05:11 PM
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Crazyeyes didn't sell the Eye, he was just pissed. We had a vote before we let him back into the guild and even then it was at Zeelot's discretion.

Fountree, would you like to be put up for a vote to see if people want you back?
Where are you getting all this plat for a pre-nerf staff? Lot of guild bank items missing that have "gone to Zagum".
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Old 06-18-2014, 05:11 PM
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all guild bank items (as indicated by bank spreadsheets) were repossessed.
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CE did much more than just contribute dps on raids, same with Faz.
He was an epic door unlocker, I can attest.
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Old 06-18-2014, 05:19 PM
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He was an epic door unlocker, I can attest.
He put in large amount of tracking from what I remember as well as just generally helping the guild out with character accounts and even pulling/training (in vp and once outside of it... lol).
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