What makes Rangers worse tanks than Shadow Knights or Paladins?

[tanknspank]

I don't know with who or when you were doing Disco in banded, but with good gear Velious content was still harder than Kunark. And in turn Kunark was harder than classic (where level range overlapped, 35-50).

[Tecmos Deception]

Originally Posted by Splorf22 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Sure, if you are 1-grouping the Royals and trioing the sebilite protector than Velious will be more of the same difficulty wise.

But how many people are actually doing this?

I wasn't asking rhetorically, haha. I really want to know what group content in Velious is so much harder than the group content of Kunark. I'm genuinely curious because I don't know Velious from live.

[HeallunRumblebelly]

Originally Posted by Splorf22 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Sure, if you are 1-grouping the Royals and trioing the sebilite protector than Velious will be more of the same difficulty wise.

But how many people are actually doing this?

Most of TMO 5 mans royals and can 3 man prot [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[Tecmos Deception]

Originally Posted by tanknspank [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I don't know with who or when you were doing Disco in banded, but with good gear Velious content was still harder than Kunark. And in turn Kunark was harder than classic (where level range overlapped, 35-50).

I never said Velious was easier or the same as Kunark. I'm just skeptical that that much of Velious is vastly harder than most of Kunark like web seemed to be suggesting it was.

[Tecmos Deception]

Originally Posted by HeallunRumblebelly [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Most of TMO 5 mans royals and can 3 man prot [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

That plays into what Splorf was getting at though, because TMO is only a small fraction of the server's active population.


For real. Someone list the "groupable" camps in Velious that are so much harder than HS south/east, undead tower area in hole, king in seb, etc. Basically no one does those Kunark camps without a cookie-cutter group. What camps in Velious will chew up a typical tank+cleric+ench+sham+DPS+DPS group so much more easily than those Kunark camps?

[Supaskillz]

Originally Posted by HeallunRumblebelly [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Most of TMO 5 mans royals and can 3 man prot [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Don't need vp gear to trio prot. Done this many times and I am casual scum

[Pint]

Originally Posted by HeallunRumblebelly [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Most of TMO 5 mans royals and can 3 man prot [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Most 60s on the server can pull this stuff off, guild tag isnt relevant, in fact implying that most Tmo do do those things in wrong.

Camps harder than Kunark would be the plate cycle, giants near tormax, protectors under the arena, elementals in sirens, probably some of the actual sirens camps in sirens also. Pom maybe? Can halls of testing be one grpd in era? I think you could find things that are more difficult but you probably have to reach for it, run of the mill stuff is still going to be easy bc this game is just easy.

[Splorf22]

I think the vast majority of L60 players on this cannot 1-group the royals (including 50% or more of TMO, especially if we take away their Donals cheatmode).

Also Velious is way harder simply because there are many more high-level mobs. There are very, very few mobs in Kunark over L55, whereas those mobs are quite common in Velious. And they have 2-3x the HP.

[Pint]

Originally Posted by Splorf22 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I think the vast majority of L60 players on this cannot 1-group the royals (including 50% or more of TMO, especially if we take away their Donals cheatmode).

I don't agree with this, any 60 chanter can fill that role, any 60 planar geared warrior can tank it, any shaman can malo a pet and spot heal and any monk with sneak and fd can pull it no need for them to be 60. Donals bp makes it consistent but if you just add a second cleric or a soulfire to the warrior then it can still be pulled off. Royals are trainer raid targets meant to teach basic tactics like focused push, consistent dispell andtimed ae dodging, they are very basic encounters.

I know we like to think we are eq savants but in reality we just play more than the average person.

[Tecmos Deception]

Originally Posted by Pint [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I know we like to think we are eq savants but in reality we just play more than the average person.

I get a kick out of how with basically any other hobby in the world, when someone spends a shitload of time on it, they get admired for their dedication and perseverance that leads to great skill with that hobby. Sports, hunting, any kind of art or music, etc. This is true even for people who don't like or appreciate the hobby in question; they can still acknowledge that the person putting the time into it enjoys it and respect that. But with a video game, the more you play/the better you are, the more of a loser you are. And even the people who play a lot and are good at them think this.