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[Ahldagor]

the potato famine was also coordinated with british and irish wealthy in order to cull the poor. was much better for them to export what food was being grown, financially speaking, than to sell it in the country. it was an aspect of centuries of genocide

[Kekephee]

Nobody in America is starving because THE LOCUST PLAGUE ATE THE CROPS, PAW. They're starving because corporate capitalism is psychotic and someone has to lose for someone else to win. This is a whole different thread- that I'm sure as shit not going to make on this message board- but if our economic hoodly hoodly hoo wasn't so fucked up we not only wouldn't have starvation in America, we could provide food for a ridiculous portion of the rest of the world, easily. That is, IF scientists were allowed to do their jobs and use research to find ways to create crops that were easy to grow and had large yields... without a bunch of people from Portland protesting and calling for boycotts because some assclown put it in their heads that anything that has ever been touched by human hands is bad

[Glenzig]

Originally Posted by Kekephee [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Nobody in America is starving because THE LOCUST PLAGUE ATE THE CROPS, PAW. They're starving because corporate capitalism is psychotic and someone has to lose for someone else to win. This is a whole different thread- that I'm sure as shit not going to make on this message board- but if our economic hoodly hoodly hoo wasn't so fucked up we not only wouldn't have starvation in America, we could provide food for a ridiculous portion of the rest of the world, easily. That is, IF scientists were allowed to do their jobs and use research to find ways to create crops that were easy to grow and had large yields... without a bunch of people from Portland protesting and calling for boycotts because some assclown put it in their heads that anything that has ever been touched by human hands is bad

You are very uninformed on this particular subject I can tell.

[Kekephee]

Originally Posted by Glenzig [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You are very uninformed on this particular subject I can tell.

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[Ahldagor]

read if you haven't

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[Glenzig]

No science needed. Lack of supply is not the cause of starvation, greed is. This kind of stuff happens all the time. In all countries.
http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/m...exico-23094422

[Frieza_Prexus]

Originally Posted by Glenzig [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

No science needed. Lack of supply is not the cause of starvation, greed is. This kind of stuff happens all the time. In all countries.
http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/m...exico-23094422

Excess agricultural goods are often, but not always, shipped to regions that are starving and could not otherwise purchase the food. Excess supply is sometimes destroyed because it cannot be meaningfully released without causing a price depression for that good. For example, a bumper crop of almonds might be destroyed because releasing them would depress the price and drive the supplier out of business. On occasion you have a situation that looks stupid, and sometimes it is, but there's generally something deeper happening to cause the event in question.

These are complicated economic matters. Chalking world hunger up to "greed" shows an undeveloped understanding of economic consequence.

[Raavak]

Now all I need to hear is Monsanto designed the barley whose fermented juice I thrive upon.

[Glenzig]

""These are complicated economic matters. Chalking world hunger up to "greed" shows an undeveloped understanding of economic consequence.""

That sentence right there is a prime example of what I'm talking about. Its ok to dump edible foodstuffs because it is more economically viable?? There may be a price depression if the commodity is released freely?? We're talking about starving human beings here. Who cares about a few more bucks? There are people that could desperately use that food.

[Frieza_Prexus]

Originally Posted by Glenzig [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

""These are complicated economic matters. Chalking world hunger up to "greed" shows an undeveloped understanding of economic consequence.""

That sentence right there is a prime example of what I'm talking about. Its ok to dump edible foodstuffs because it is more economically viable?? There may be a price depression if the commodity is released freely?? We're talking about starving human beings here. Who cares about a few more bucks? There are people that could desperately use that food.

And then the crops are no longer grown due to a market crash. The farmers are no longer growing and that good is no longer available. Now those who were buying it or receiving it for free/at a discount already cannot have it. The destruction of goods is sometimes the cost of the hyper-efficient distribution provided by capitalism. Do you prefer the Soviet model? The example is oversimplified, but the principle is the same.

I admire your desire to help people. Your heart is in the right place, but the aggregate situation must be considered. Short term help at the expense of the future is generally not a sound decision.

Do you have a savings account? Why do you keep that money when you could feed a starving person in Africa? Is it the evil "greed" that motivates you to save?