Spanking a Child is a form of child abuse

[Tantrix]

Originally Posted by Lune [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

lol what kind of third world country do you live in where people not only beat their kids, but also walk around in public with firearms

sounds like a shitty place, bet they dont even have universal healthcare

It's called a "free" country...those with universal healthcare wouldn't know anything about that.

Originally Posted by Lune [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

What's the difference? You're using violent force to impose your will on your child.

From the looks of it, you're whining more in this thread over spanking than I ever did when I got my ass whipped as a kid.

[Lune]

Originally Posted by Tantrix [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

It's called a "free" country...those with universal healthcare wouldn't know anything about that.

I'm not sure where you got the impression the United States of America was any more "free" than countries like Germany, Japan, Australia, the Netherlands, or Sweden. Is it because of our constitution? Theirs are pretty much the same. Is it because you think we have superior economic/social mobility here? We don't.

The one freedom you have here, that you don't quite have in those other advanced countries, is the freedom to die of disease because you can't afford treatment, or maybe to die of complications during childbirth.

Trolling aside, you dumb motherfuckers need to quit defending corporal punishment simply because you do it, and it was done to you. It's outright illegal in several countries and there is strong scientific evidence it is harmful. Maybe if your white trash parents didn't smack you around so much, you'd have learned to think critically about your behaviors and whether they might be wrong.

I mean, come on, what a coincidence. You got your ass whipped as a kid, and here you are defending it.

Think about it. How do you want your kid to solve their problems when they grow up? With violent emotional outbursts? What about with words, patience, and logic? Which approach is going to give them a better chance to succeed in life?

[hatelore]

Lune, do you ever shut the fuck up? Srs quesssiun.

[JPMorgan]

Originally Posted by Lune [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Think about it. How do you want your kid to solve their problems when they grow up? With violent emotional outbursts? What about with words, patience, and logic? Which approach is going to give them a better chance to succeed in life?

But, that way is more American than McDonalds' apple pie.

L2Patriot.

[Tantrix]

Originally Posted by Lune [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I'm not sure where you got the impression the United States of America was any more "free" than countries like Germany, Japan, Australia, the Netherlands, or Sweden. Is it because of our constitution? Theirs are pretty much the same. Is it because you think we have superior economic/social mobility here? We don't.

The one freedom you have here, that you don't quite have in those other advanced countries, is the freedom to die of disease because you can't afford treatment, or maybe to die of complications during childbirth.

You can't be serious. The U.S. is vastly different than every country you mentioned, which would probably explain why Americans aren't packing all their shit and flocking to Germany, Japan, Australia, The Netherlands, or Sweden...they are all coming HERE.

And if you can't afford treatment (as in health insurance) maybe you should look for a better paying job...perhaps one with medical benefits. Maybe if you'd have had your ass whipped as a kid so you would have been a responsible adult.

And just an FYI- Most women who die of complications during childbirth do so in hospitals, look it up. Millions of children are born just fine at home...that includes all 3 of mine.

Originally Posted by Lune [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Trolling aside, you dumb motherfuckers need to quit defending corporal punishment simply because you do it, and it was done to you. It's outright illegal in several countries and there is strong scientific evidence it is harmful. Maybe if your white trash parents didn't smack you around so much, you'd have learned to think critically about your behaviors and whether they might be wrong.

I mean, come on, what a coincidence. You got your ass whipped as a kid, and here you are defending it.

Think about it. How do you want your kid to solve their problems when they grow up? With violent emotional outbursts? What about with words, patience, and logic? Which approach is going to give them a better chance to succeed in life?

Again, I got my ass tore up when I did wrong as a child and I'm just fine...not bitter at my parents whatsoever. It's called being an adult and having the common sense to know a little spanking here and there is vastly different from beating the shit out of your kids until they're black and blue. Btw- If you need "scientific evidence" to know how to raise children, you probably shouldn't have had any to begin with.

[Sidelle]

Originally Posted by Lune [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I'm not sure where you got the impression the United States of America was any more "free" than countries like Germany, Japan, Australia, the Netherlands, or Sweden. Is it because of our constitution? Theirs are pretty much the same. Is it because you think we have superior economic/social mobility here? We don't.

Just a couple things. You might not agree but America is absolutely more free than the abovementioned countries precisely because of our law-abiding citizens' right to bear arms.

"The laws that forbid the carrying of arms are laws of such a nature. They disarm only those who are neither inclined nor determined to commit crimes.... Such laws make things worse for the assaulted and better for the assailants; they serve rather to encourage than to prevent homicides, for an unarmed man may be attacked with greater confidence than an armed man." - Thomas Jefferson (quoting 18th century criminologist Cesare Beccaria)

Trolling aside, you dumb motherfuckers need to quit defending corporal punishment simply because you do it, and it was done to you. It's outright illegal in several countries and there is strong scientific evidence it is harmful. Maybe if your white trash parents didn't smack you around so much, you'd have learned to think critically about your behaviors and whether they might be wrong.

I mean, come on, what a coincidence. You got your ass whipped as a kid, and here you are defending it.

Think about it. How do you want your kid to solve their problems when they grow up? With violent emotional outbursts? What about with words, patience, and logic? Which approach is going to give them a better chance to succeed in life?

Lune, sometimes I enjoy your posts but I just gotta ask why you're so hostile. You did say "Trolling aside.." so is this really what you think of everyone who disagrees with you or just having a bad night?

Calling people dumb motherfuckers and white trash (or worse) because they're "wrong" for not having the same opinion as you isn't exactly a positive thing to teach children either. By the way, how many kids do you have? Please be sure to teach them they can't go around chewing people's faces off because of silly differences of opinion. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]


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[hatelore]

I have a mortgage, cars, kids, etc and a lot to lose. But I will die with my gun in my hand if it comes to that, not by rolling over like a bitch and accepting what a degenerate wants to do to me.

You on the other hand, will just lose your life, bike, and a poor mom who misses her basement dweller.

[jackass1971]

Far as casting judgement on someone for exercising their right to carry or not is silly on this forum. Silly in general, people from all over the world are viewing this and have no clue what anyone is talking about. If you can do it, if you cant then serve your sentence or be jealous.

Mcshaggin Shirethug

[hatelore]

Pro tip # 4748362649: A good portion of degenerates go to nice cozy,wealthy crime free areas to commit there crimes. Just food for thought... Most poor ghetto dwellers don't have much to steal.

[JPMorgan]

Originally Posted by hatelore [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Pro tip # 4748362649: A good portion of degenerates go to nice cozy,wealthy crime free areas to commit there crimes. Just food for thought... Most poor ghetto dwellers don't have much to steal.

This isn't true at all.

When you look at the amount of violent crimes committed by the poor its overwhelming aimed at others within the same social class.

Freakanomics has a cool study related to this.