Epic Video : pvp battle over Sev today

[hagard]

I was upset with the call and after it was made vent went silent.
so I cranked up eq game volume and listened to the gnomish crys as I was battered by blows from 2 ifs

[marie]

Originally Posted by hagard [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I was upset with the call and after it was made vent went silent.

I know exactly how that is. It happened so many times while i was in Red Dawn. over the past 4 months this always happens. and its sickening.

HB claims he wants to contest nihilum in velious. but hes so full of shit. just delaying the bluebiness so people have dkp build up and dont want to leave because of it.

If he wanted to contest them he would want to pvp azrael to get pvp experience BEFORE velious. He just wants to zerg because he just wants another blue server like nihilum. Im pretty convinced at this point he never really left Nihilum. When he created Red Dawn him and nizzar had all this planned out from the start.

[HippoNipple]

Originally Posted by marie [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I know exactly how that is. It happened so many times while i was in Red Dawn. over the past 4 months this always happens. and its sickening.

HB claims he wants to contest nihilum in velious. but hes so full of shit. just delaying the bluebiness so people have dkp build up and dont want to leave because of it.

If he wanted to contest them he would want to pvp azrael to get pvp experience BEFORE velious. He just wants to zerg because he just wants another blue server like nihilum. Im pretty convinced at this point he never really left Nihilum. When he created Red Dawn him and nizzar had all this planned out from the start.

Before you need to start worrying about pvp skills you need to worry about having a force big enough to accomplish anything once you have killed the other guild. RD isn't strong enough to take the mobs without PvP so what would that accomplish in Velious?

RD is basically another Nihilum and wants to do PvE but not as hardcore. I don't see why this is a surprise to everyone even though the leader, HB, has stated it clearly 100x.

It is inevitable that PvP will happen if a couple guilds can rise up and have this same mentality. Guilds that only want to PvP are short lived. RD would be stupid to go up against a guild like Nihilum right now. If there was another PvE guild like RD right now, with a similar force in gear/numbers/levels then RD and that guild would fight over PvE targets that they both wanted. The best PvP comes organically when similarly matched guilds have to compete for PvE.

It is pretty black and white. People get frustrated because other people don't cater to how others want them to play to maximize their fun? You want 20 people to log in and follow you around for free kills?

[Tassador]

Rd is not another nilly. Nilly is well accomplished and not coat riders. Have fun with the alliance feeder guild.

[marie]

Originally Posted by HippoNipple [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Before you need to start worrying about pvp skills you need to worry about having a force big enough to accomplish anything once you have killed the other guild. RD isn't strong enough to take the mobs without PvP so what would that accomplish in Velious?

RD is basically another Nihilum and wants to do PvE but not as hardcore. I don't see why this is a surprise to everyone even though the leader, HB, has stated it clearly 100x.

It is inevitable that PvP will happen if a couple guilds can rise up and have this same mentality. Guilds that only want to PvP are short lived. RD would be stupid to go up against a guild like Nihilum right now. If there was another PvE guild like RD right now, with a similar force in gear/numbers/levels then RD and that guild would fight over PvE targets that they both wanted. The best PvP comes organically when similarly matched guilds have to compete for PvE.

It is pretty black and white. People get frustrated because other people don't cater to how others want them to play to maximize their fun? You want 20 people to log in and follow you around for free kills?

since day 1 of red dawn HB has been telling me he wants to compete nihilum for raid encounters in velious but not target nihilum as an enemy, just compete for raid targets. This is the main reason i joined red dawn. Turns out this isnt the case, HB never left Nihilum and anybody in red dawn is just a nihilum feeder.

red dawn and nihilum are the same guild

just red dawn are the tier below that are kinda the bitches in the relationship.

you seem to have the wrong impression about azrael because you said "guilds that only want to pvp". well azrael wants to contest for pve. not to mention azrael has gotten farther than red dawn in pve, pretty sure azrael killed trak a few times and even some veeshans peak mobs where Red Dawn hasnt even come close to that level yet.

[heartbrand]

Originally Posted by marie [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

since day 1 of red dawn HB has been telling me he wants to compete nihilum for raid encounters in velious but not target nihilum as an enemy, just compete for raid targets. This is the main reason i joined red dawn. Turns out this isnt the case, HB never left Nihilum and anybody in red dawn is just a nihilum feeder.

red dawn and nihilum are the same guild

just red dawn are the tier below that are kinda the bitches in the relationship.

you seem to have the wrong impression about azrael because you said "guilds that only want to pvp". well azrael wants to contest for pve. not to mention azrael has gotten farther than red dawn in pve, pretty sure azrael killed trak a few times and even some veeshans peak mobs where Red Dawn hasnt even come close to that level yet.

RD killed trak last week. The only dragon in VP killed by someone other than Nihilum, was led by me, with 7 people playing my VP keyed chars. RD has killed the majority of non VP raid mobs for the last 3 weeks in a row.

As to your complaint about porting out of pvp, there's competing interests at hand. I'm 60 and personally don't give a fuck if I die in pvp or not, but many of my members are level 54 or so, and don't want to spend their day dying in Sol B to level 60's and then having to LNS and being killed the second they zone into lavastorm because it's a "different" zone, and then killed again in nektulos etc. They don't want to be forced to CR @ naggys lair. They don't want the demoralizing blow of losing pvp to 15+ level 60's full PVP buffed.

Also you're lying through your teeth about always porting out, as I made plenty of calls to fight Nihilum for Ragefire in RD, even when we knew victory was almost impossible. We did it for PVP experience. This was even BEFORE the PNP.

In short, you're full of shit, thanks.

[Twainz]

Originally Posted by marie [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

since day 1 of red dawn HB has been telling me he wants to compete nihilum for raid encounters in velious but not target nihilum as an enemy, just compete for raid targets. This is the main reason i joined red dawn. Turns out this isnt the case, HB never left Nihilum and anybody in red dawn is just a nihilum feeder.

red dawn and nihilum are the same guild

just red dawn are the tier below that are kinda the bitches in the relationship.

you seem to have the wrong impression about azrael because you said "guilds that only want to pvp". well azrael wants to contest for pve. not to mention azrael has gotten farther than red dawn in pve, pretty sure azrael killed trak a few times and even some veeshans peak mobs where Red Dawn hasnt even come close to that level yet.

Pretty sure Red Dawn has got more raid targets in the last month than Azrael ever has. Also, if Azrael wants to contest, why have they only killed 1 contested mob? Why has Azrael run from Nihilum, every time Nihilum shows up to PvP? Don't start crying about numbers. You either want to fight for mobs or you want uncontested mobs. Azrael has a rich history of shooting for the uncontested. And when Azrael killed that 1 VP mob, they were in Red Dawn.

[Eslade]

nope not becoming blue99, we fight when there is something that we want. this is a divergence of ideas. If you want pvp so badly why doesn't azrael post up in a zone and tell the other guilds to come in? naw you want to catch the other side at as much of a disadvantage as possible. azrael doesn't want even pvp, which is why you bind camp and attack people 6v1.

the kool-aid must be delicious.

[Eslade]

yep because inviting azrael into the guild and being kos to nihilum for most of the life of the guild was all part of the plan for the genius level intellect of Nizzarr...

I feel like I'm taking crazy pills.

[heartbrand]

In all fairness I parsed 63dps while in defensive, which cuts your dps in half.