Red Server Changes

[Sirken]

Originally Posted by Doors [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Respectfully disagree with the decision to modify the experience rate on a server with less than 200 people.

i respectfully disagree with your respectful disagreement.

Originally Posted by Rec [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

"criticizing staff decisions"
This was the only thing that seemed unusual. How do we effect change if we can't be critical of staff decisions?

let me clarify this. Players are free to criticize things, what Derubael was referring to was the way in which most players do it. learn to criticize in a professional and respectful way while still getting your point across. i'm sick of losing fellow staff members due to a small handful of very loud players.

[Squire]

sirk, im serious, not trolling or being an ass.

could you explain to us the positive impact that removing the exp modifier is supposed to have? i just don't get it.

[Humerox]

The idea is that it will make it more difficult to create throwaway characters. In the long run that will prevent or hinder the toxics enough not to play or to reroll new toons after a ban. This is all opinion, btw.

There are other advantages...but I don't personally think NOW was a good time to do this, but w/e.

I good compromise to KEEP people that are turned off by the loss of the modifier is to make it easier in another way.

+/-4.

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[Bodybagger]

Originally Posted by Humerox [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The idea is that it will make it more difficult to create throwaway characters. In the long run that will prevent or hinder the toxics enough not to play or to reroll new toons after a ban. This is all opinion, btw.

There are other advantages...but I don't personally think NOW was a good time to do this, but w/e.

I good compromise to KEEP people that are turned off by the loss of the modifier is to make it easier in another way.

+/-4.

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because the same guys who have rerolled 6 banned accounts and been PL rushed up and regeared every time won't just do the same thing again and again.... you know... those are the guys losing out on the gaming experience that is classic EQ 1-50+ grind.

Thank god this is how we solved that problem. It's so good they don't have any workaround for that... like taking a week to do that PL rush instead of a day or two... [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]



I didn't want a PL. I didn't want handouts... I wanted friends, and to grind. And now my options are reroll a solo class I hate instead of playing what I enjoy, so I can lvl slow and alone, or take a PL to 50 and enter a hell I'm not even close to ready for [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.] ...or go back to blue where these problems don't exist... what if the 100 players on red just reroll blue and hand in discord books? Would life be way more awesome? Is this like that moment in half baked???

I'm not gonna do what everyone thinks I'm gonna do.... and FREAK OUT!.... but who's comin with me?

[Humerox]

Originally Posted by Bodybagger [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I didn't want a PL. I didn't want handouts... I wanted friends, and to grind. And now my options are reroll a solo class I hate instead of playing what I enjoy, so I can lvl slow and alone, or take a PL to 50...

Be glad you have a good guild that is happy to PL. I'm not being condescending, either. The situation was much more dire before...after I was unable to keep up with the leveling a year or more ago I was stuck logging in now and again and buffing random newbs on my mid-level cleric. When I came back I was pleasantly surprised to see Red Dawn taking a proactive approach in helping new people.

There seriously are not enough players to enjoy the 1-50 ride on red. Not unless you can get a few RL people to play with you.

[Bodybagger]

Originally Posted by Humerox [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Be glad you have a good guild that is happy to PL. I'm not being condescending, either. The situation was much more dire before...after I was unable to keep up with the leveling a year or more ago I was stuck logging in now and again and buffing random newbs on my mid-level cleric. When I came back I was pleasantly surprised to see Red Dawn taking a proactive approach in helping new people.

There seriously are not enough players to enjoy the 1-50 ride on red. Not unless you can get a few RL people to play with you.

So grateful I can sit back and basically just roll a lvl 50 rogue... that's exactly the experience I was going for when I came here form blue with a half dozen people and met more and made a friend list of people I could party with and have tragically awesome good times.


That isn't a good thing IMO.... and only promotes more PL'ing and less actual playing on the server. There was a mass exodus off newb players, who were already barely getting by to be honest.

We don't all desire power leveling and twinking, some of us legitimately enjoy playing the game.. the best part of EQ for me was always that it was as fun and as much adventuring at lvl 6 as lvl 60...

[heartbrand]

Currently on red99 there is 1 cleric online between the levels of 1 and 50. And that my friend is the issue. Not the EXP rate. Not OOC. Not Aunt Jemimah's Pancakes.

[Tradesonred]

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[Kazi]

It's going to encourage grouping on a 130 pop server or something. Or that was the plan, but they skipped implementing the group exp bonus. So yeah.

[Bodybagger]

FWIW, red99 just went from ultra classic low pop fun with a few close buds, kicking but VERY slowly in horribly formed duo/trio's of all dps newbs not twinks.... to my buddies all leaving, and my options being a) back to blue or b) take PL and waste entire leveling experience I was here for and loving.

I don't get it... but I guess I have a decision to make... fun but meaningless leveling and socializing with easy pixels on blue and no fun end game.... or skip all the adventuring and take PL to 50... and try my chances there.

At that point though, if no one levels anything legitimately and everyone just PL's toons minus a few who play solo classes and enjoy that lifestyle... why not just make a server where we can roll level 50's from the start? IMO that's all this forces, is everyone to PL, where I'd been turning down PL's and just slowly chugging along with my crew of newbs... that seems like the only potential outcome to this situation... players who do stay will just get PL to be viable coz top end players want more top end players to kill and help them kill other top end players... can I just /createlvl50rogue instead of wasting a few days taking unwanted PL's since I can't legitimately play the game now that all my newb homies /quit? lol