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Old 01-28-2014, 04:25 PM
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Bidin, I'm doing my best to not bring in real life insults here but you are making it very hard...... very hard.
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Old 01-28-2014, 04:25 PM
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I love this line of reasoning. Asking for repops to not always be on vampire hours when the server pop is 60 is "asking for hand outs," but those arguing for it to remain this way when no one plays somehow aren't asking for uncontested handouts? Not following the logic, sorry.
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Old 01-28-2014, 04:27 PM
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I love this line of reasoning. Asking for repops to not always be on vampire hours when the server pop is 60 is "asking for hand outs," but those arguing for it to remain this way when no one plays somehow aren't asking for uncontested handouts? Not following the logic, sorry.
We are not asking for uncontested repops. We welcome you guys to try to contest at 6am. Stop asking for gms to change he spawn times, this is how classic eq works. If you want a game that always has mobs up during prime time, I invite you to check out www.worldofwarcraft.com
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Old 01-28-2014, 04:29 PM
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Bidin, I'm doing my best to not bring in real life insults here but you are making it very hard...... very hard.
Keep it clean Brobb, I know just as much about you, but up until this point I've respected you enough not to air your dirty laundry.
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Old 01-28-2014, 04:31 PM
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We welcome you guys to try to contest at 6am.
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I love this line of reasoning. Asking for repops to not always be on vampire hours when the server pop is 60 is "asking for hand outs," but those arguing for it to remain this way when no one plays somehow aren't asking for uncontested handouts? Not following the logic, sorry.
Server re popped and one guild responded to a batphone faster than another guild and now that's the spawn time every week until next reset.

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Old 01-28-2014, 04:32 PM
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Bidin, YOU"RE ARGUING FOR 6AM REPOPS. The Majority of the server CANNOT play at these times. Stop being so hard headed. I want to mass pvp more, less uncontested dragon slaying? Understand? No hand outs, more pvp. What is so hard for this concept for Nilly to understand? Is it the fear of notbeing able to do all of the content in 3hours?
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Old 01-28-2014, 04:33 PM
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We are not asking for uncontested repops. We welcome you guys to try to contest at 6am. Stop asking for gms to change he spawn times, this is how classic eq works. If you want a game that always has mobs up during prime time, I invite you to check out www.worldofwarcraft.com
I'm glad you mentioned this. This is actually not how classic EQ works. Never in the history of EQ did you have months between resets, with all the mobs killed during vampire hours in a 3 hour window week in and week out. I'm glad you believe this is "classic," but as someone who raided in cutting edge end game guilds on Xegony and The Nameless, as well as Guided and took interest in the server I was a Guide on, I can assure you it isn't.
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Sorry, but 25 people can't delay 30+ level 60's in VP + max resist gear for more than 5 minutes. Mass PVP lasts about what, 3-4 minutes? VS dies in 15 seconds, and you all have VS faction, so you can have your casters on top of the wall and pin us between the bridge and zone in and rape us in seconds. It wouldn't do anything. Severilous we can try to bard the mob away but it wouldn't do much more than a few minutes max. Trakanon we can move timers back a bit, but is it really worth having a bunch of people who still need gear and are sub 60 waking up @ 9am every day to log into Norrath just to push it back 30 minutes at a time for it to get reset the moment it even gets close to a reasonable time? Talendor you all have OT hammers so we can have no chance at out mobilizing for it. We can't really contest CT because we can't clear the zone fast enough in order to do so. Innoruuk same situation, can't clear it fast enough.

Let's be real, we get about 14-18 people for 6am repops currently compared to your 30+. There's just nothing we can really do to push timers more than 3 to 4 minutes, or anywhere close to the HOURS we would need to push them back to change things, and even if we slowly chipped away at it, there will be a repop way before a 645am VS approaches something like 5PM EST.

I just laugh @ these "play better" posts or "try harder." This is a server that struggles to break 100 concurrent unique players. During the repop today, you had about 34 people. I did a who all and there were 61 online. That means you had over 50% of the online players, most of whom are all 60 with max resist gear and what not. There's no strategy to overcome that. It's just not possible.

There's almost no one left to recruit. The EQ Mac influx is gone. Of the 70+ for two gorenaire attempts, many quit because red99 wasn't for them. Some joined nilly, though not many only 4-5, and many just got burnt out on the server again because there just isn't much you can do to progress your character. I put in way too many hours every week scheduling raids, exp groups, epic fights, sky progression, doing recruiting on both red and blue and other forums. I do everything humanly possible to get people to play, excited about logging in, and trying to gear them and get them ready to compete. The problem is, and will always be, most people who join this server self admittedly would rather app nihilum, get instant pixels with zero difficulty, and then fade away. Most people have no interest in being an under dog and progressing. I can't tell you how many people I've spoken to who just tell me, "sorry I'm a power gamer, I don't want to bother having to work for it." They love the ability to log on twice a week, once for VP and once for repops, and not be bothered the rest of the week.

Some will say this is because Nihilum is an amazing guild, etc. Not really. It's because there's mostly sub 100 pop, no one to recruit, an almost impossible gap to close, etc. If this was a legit server with hundreds of players, there would be multiple guilds. There would still be a "top dog" but Nihilum would never be able to hold down all these mobs with 3+ guilds competing. You'd have one guild mobilizing for trak, another for fay, maybe Nihilum @ VP, another @ talendor, etc. The server would be completely different. Unfortunately, there's only room for two guilds here, and due to the nature of the server, it's near impossible for the second guild to "overtake" the main guild. For some weird reason, people would rather log in week after week to kill mobs they need nothing from, even though the dkp they accumulate is meaningless, to "hold down" those "evil" rebels hell bent on "destroying the server."

Personally, I find it incredibly difficult to wake up for a 7am faydedar or what not, and that's with guildies needing the loot. I could only imagine doing it for dragons that you don't even need loot from, to deny loot that is mostly completely trivial and replaceable with GROUPABLE items in velious. Call me crazy.

In the end, I knew with Red Dawn it's impossible to "win" this server, because there's just too many reallllllly dedicated people in Nihilum to gaining their satisfaction and fulfillment in life through Red99. However, with Velious, it is certainly possible for us to get a number of mobs, make meaningful and fun gains, and have a good time doing so. I've had a lot more fun with our 13 man faydedars, our 17 man Xygoz etc., than I ever did auto attacking fear trash with 60 people in Nihilum all max geared with zero threat of wiping. Kind of like in world of warcraft, the most boring part of an expac is when you have it on farm mode waiting for the next expac. That's when most people peace out. Strangely here, people are content logging on to do that same farm for 2+ years.

So please, keep giving us suggestions on how to contest and what not. I issue a challenge to all these so called masterminds. Make an anonymous alt. Join up. See what life is like on the other side. It's more fun than you would expect, and you can see realistically what this server is like.
holy shit, i read half way through, and agree with you on everything. But here is were you are wrong.

EQ has always been a sockers game, it never catered to the avg casual player. Im sorry but. no... as much as i'd love it to be this way its not possible.

I'm trying really hard to not sound like a dick but go find a WoW server to play man.

This is exactly lead me to joining Nihilum, the "resistance" does not have the time, nor the will to do what is needed to even begin to contest on a equal level.

The gear gap in kunark from VP to walmart is not big.

You lost this server the second you invited azrael to your guild, if you had not done this the mood would not have changed, you might have been able to get majority of people who were in RD that were 60 already to PL and help gear.

The atmosphere has changed, its azrael v5 already. People are jocking for top position for loots that don't exist. and on the off chance you get loot, everyone is sour when they don't get it. it's just not conductive to a heathly stable guild.

Those people don't deserve you're time heartbrand.
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