Vendor with Illusion items.

[Tecmos Deception]

Originally Posted by Daldaen [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Original EQ quests only allow for a faction check when completing a quest turnin. Which means all quests are doable at level one (unless the turnin or unMQable piece drops in a planar zone)

Luclin allowed for a level and class check
PoP allowed for a flag check

So every quest we will see on this server should be doable by every level, class and race given that combination can reach the minimum faction required.

Tldr - classic mechanic to get epics at level 1. Classic server environment limited epics to 46-50+

So what's your argument here? That the server is already imperfect because having lowbies with epics wasn't something you saw on live, so we should make it even more imperfect by adding in more features that you never saw on live either?

[Raavak]

I'm still for a Shadowhaven-esque casino.

[Daldaen]

Originally Posted by Tecmos Deception [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

So what's your argument here? That the server is already imperfect because having lowbies with epics wasn't something you saw on live, so we should make it even more imperfect by adding in more features that you never saw on live either?

My argument is this; it is already imperfect so using the argument that illusions would make it imperfect is flawed. Since it already exists. A crappy metaphor is one where you're in a life raft and someone already shot one hole in the base of it. Then you argue that a second hole will sink you. The first will sink you just fine the second will just accelerate the process.

You can argue that adding MORE unclassic things will make it more apparent to new players that this server isn't really classic. But the longer the play they will realize it isn't really classic. Does that make sense?

The way I saw your argument it sounded like this would be a tipping point into unclassicness where it already is what with level 5 epics and such. The number of twinked Alts and powerlevels and max level toons and epics on low levels currently are glaringly obvious examples of how unclassic we are currently. Illusions clerics as iksars would just add one more example (which sort of exists already when GMs illusion people in EC. There has been a cursed hand from Karnors corpse in tunnel for a week now I think for example. That would've made me stop and ask questions for awhile if I ran by it in classic)

I'm not really arguing for or against this. I wouldn't be too bothered if guise were buyable for 1 million. Adding in other illusions I may be bothers by but meh it's an illusion. Doesn't add or detract much from the game other than a cosmetic affect.

[Daldaen]

Originally Posted by Raavak [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I'm still for a Shadowhaven-esque casino.

This would be neat but you'd need to put it in high keep (casino tables and stuff) and change the rewards.

SL casino was...
Rubi BP
Scimitar of Mistwalker
Holgresh Elder Beads**
Ton Po Bo Staff
Prenerf Fungi Staff
Guise of Deceiver
Vibrating Gauntlets of Infused
Mounts

So... Guise and Rubi BP I think would be fine. Holgresh Elder Beads are Velious so shouldn't have those. Scimitar of the Mistwalker is quite rare (but now nerfed) so I can imagine some butt hurt about putting that in. Ton Po and prenerf Fungi are too OP to be added. Vibrating gauntlets are bis currently not so sure they should be added either. Mounts obviously no.

So what would you fill it with? Guise, Rubi BP and... What else?

[radditsu]

Fuzzy foothairs dawg

http://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/i...ml?item=110360

[username17]

Right now? Absolutely not.

Lets revisit after Velious is 2-3 years old.

[HeallunRumblebelly]

Anyone got a link of the "not classic" kid chugging milk?

[baalzy]

Give me your plat. I'll spend it to buy tinkerer bags for my chars. That'll take a good 160k out of the economy :P

[Tecmos Deception]

Originally Posted by Daldaen [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

My argument is this; it is already imperfect so using the argument that illusions would make it imperfect is flawed. Since it already exists. A crappy metaphor is one where you're in a life raft and someone already shot one hole in the base of it. Then you argue that a second hole will sink you. The first will sink you just fine the second will just accelerate the process.

Did you miss the part about how the staff are attempting to create the most classic server they can?

The fact that it is humanly impossible to create a "perfect classic server" doesn't mean they suddenly should be putting in any and every nonclassic feature you can dream up just because "well it's already not classic so BRING ON CATS ON THE MOON!!!" or some shit.

[Darkyle]

Roll an enchanter, all the illusions you could want [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]