New Raid Rules question - how would "unguilded" pickup raids be handled?

[Tasslehofp99]

Originally Posted by Erati [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

why didn't you try to do this kind of stuff before these rules is my only question

acting like this new agreement ( which allows many more formal opportunities for pick up raiding) is hindering something that never made it to fruition under the old system is kind of silly.

Note: I read that you said somewhere that you 'tried' to set up some pick up raids, so I might have missed if one of these actually happened, in which case my apology.


And a 'pick up' dungeon crawl raid doesn't count.

I've done some minor pickup raids but prior to this agreement the amount of coordination/organization required to go after any mobs of substance was a little bit out of hand. Now that some mobs are more open/available, I see no reason why pickup raids should be excluded from going after them.

In particular, some of the easier mobs like Maestro/Faydedar/VS/Draco are all easily killed by any 15-20 people. Why can't people who aren't interested in joining any of the current guilds for whatever reason help form pickup raids (inviting anyone who wants to come) and go after these easier targets? [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[Erati]

Originally Posted by Tasslehofp99 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I've done some minor pickup raids but prior to this agreement the amount of coordination/organization required to go after any mobs of substance was a little bit out of hand. Now that some mobs are more open/available, I see no reason why pickup raids should be excluded from going after them.

In particular, some of the easier mobs like Maestro/Faydedar/VS/Draco are all easily killed by any 15-20 people. Why can't people who aren't interested in joining any of the current guilds for whatever reason help form pickup raids (inviting anyone who wants to come) and go after these easier targets? [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

they can, but the more sought after targets you listed there ( Fay and VS) will more than likely have a Class R guild that is preparing for them so the pick up raid will have to deal with a little competition

If you are talking about the 'classic' pick up raid scenario where a mob spawns and the organizer sends tells /shouts etc to many zones, gathers his force and crawls through the dungeon to slay the mob.....then this is already achievable very easily with this new raiding system. I have already stated that Naggy and Vox will both have Class R spawns deemed for 'pick up' raiding. When this happens those dragons will be left up for 4 hours and anyone can organize and kill them.

Heck it can be worked out for them to be left up EVEN longer if the Tier C guilds let them live that long.

The more contested/sought after mobs however will be very hard to do a pick-up raid and will most likely have to join guilds to kill. The Tier R guilds have rarely seen these mobs themselves and are chomping at the bit just to experience them.

Theres nothing stopping the Tier C guilds also letting their mobs go to be 'pick up' designated. No Tier R guilds will touch the Class C mobs in fear of turning into a C guild so if you work it out between the other C's then you can have your Pick Up raid slots just as easy as the R's can.

This system allows for it very easy. What it doesn't allow is for many random guilded people to join in on this fun without getting their guilds locked out. Thats where I agree with you and your sentiments.

[Bruman]

There are currently NINE guilds who consider themselves Tier R (even though many have not yet gotten a kill to officially tag them as such on the raid tracker).

There's not really room for pickup groups, but PLENTY of guilds to chose from.

[Clark]

Originally Posted by YendorLootmonkey [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

They only have to monitor it once, then slap the offending guild with a 8-week ban. Will never happen again.