The Deru' Plan C discussion

[Xadion]

indeed, Veeshan had a good number of tier 1, or 2 if you count FoH by themselves. But yes...that was mostly Velious and beyond when the world could support it. Velious will fix it naturally (sans variance etc) and even more when CT 2.0 and Hate 2nd floor are released.

[SwordNboard]

Since there are more raid-capable guilds and level 60s due to the extended Kunark timeline, they just need to increase raid spawns to multiple times per week. Say there are 9 raid guilds. Have raid targets spawn 3-4 times per week, but you cannot kill the same target more than once per week. That leaves competition in, and rotations out. Any newer guild breaking in to the raid scene could be investigated as being an alt guild. With this many mobs to guilds, you could still have guilds that come out dry from competing and losing targets.

[Xadion]

andro, just post everything in Spanish and let them google translate it if they cannot use basic reading skills to understand your posts.

[radditsu]

Originally Posted by Xadion [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

andro, just post everything in Spanish and let them google translate it if they cannot use basic reading skills to understand your posts.

I was making a punctuation joke. I understood completely what he was trying to say.

Joke, fun. Happy. Great.

[falkun]

Wonderful, you hate that coldblooded's RL pic was dragged through RNF. YET YOU DID NOTHING ABOUT IT. No one from TMO was guild removed or otherwise penalized. The pic came down, that ONE forum account received a ban, and TMO kept on keeping on. That reminds me of a quote, "All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing." You did nothing. Hate the action all you want, you did nothing about it. As your guild FTE snipes and wins loot with fewer than 5 people on the aggro list, you do nothing. As your guild initiates Fear DT cycles, without engaging Draco or CT, you collect loot and do nothing. If you want the toxic raid scene to change, STOP doing nothing. I don't give a shit about how you feel about what your guild does, I've seen you DO NOTHING to stop them from doing it again. Again to the quotes, "Actions speak louder than words."

[Xadion]

Originally Posted by falkun [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Wonderful, you hate that coldblooded's RL pic was dragged through RNF. YET YOU DID NOTHING ABOUT IT. No one from TMO was guild removed or otherwise penalized. The pic came down, that ONE forum account received a ban, and TMO kept on keeping on. That reminds me of a quote, "All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing." You did nothing. Hate the action all you want, you did nothing about it. As your guild FTE snipes and wins loot with fewer than 5 people on the aggro list, you do nothing. As your guild initiates Fear DT cycles, without engaging Draco or CT, you collect loot and do nothing. If you want the toxic raid scene to change, STOP doing nothing. I don't give a shit about how you feel about what your guild does, I've seen you DO NOTHING to stop them from doing it again.

Andro himself has stood up for things in our guild forums many times, as have I and others. In DA there was a stay out of RNF understanding, and while there where still anon accounts that posted the general stance was to leave it alone... Come the merge with TMO and their rise in the raid scene they did not have the same rule or understanding... And if you don't understand that the typical RNF people are their own thing and never really representative of a group, well sorry heh. I hope Zagum as our new leader will enact RNF policy, there is rarely a reason to start a flame crusade in RNF.

[Arteker]

Originally Posted by falkun [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Wonderful, you hate that coldblooded's RL pic was dragged through RNF. YET YOU DID NOTHING ABOUT IT. No one from TMO was guild removed or otherwise penalized. The pic came down, that ONE forum account received a ban, and TMO kept on keeping on. That reminds me of a quote, "All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing." You did nothing. Hate the action all you want, you did nothing about it. As your guild FTE snipes and wins loot with fewer than 5 people on the aggro list, you do nothing. As your guild initiates Fear DT cycles, without engaging Draco or CT, you collect loot and do nothing. If you want the toxic raid scene to change, STOP doing nothing. I don't give a shit about how you feel about what your guild does, I've seen you DO NOTHING to stop them from doing it again.

im a regular member of my guild i dont have power but if u stop to ask any of tmo would reply i never shut up my mouth about what i though was wrong. and yes i got laughed alot or get called mexican by people in my own guild and i unleashed a shit storm about the coldbloded pic.

i apologized to her in game when she still played not much i could do either,

Settin ct cycles? i never did but i have seen every raider guild doing it.
FTE snipes? till fte shouts where implemented every guild did it .
there was nothing to be done? back in the day i was one of the main supporters of the infamous tmo endangered species attemp to free mobs for the server, after the total failure of such thing people like me xasten elethia and many others tried to change things .

When BDA ksed my monk epic i was furious yet i did soemthing agaisnt bda guild ? i didint , i played regular in this server with alot of people from every guild and never ever let my tmo tag affect them by being a nice group member .

You amongs others should remember i would not left a hs group for raid vp when my paladin was ur tank do you remember it? i remember before u even got bda taged .

When loraen asked me and if u thrust me asked me what i though about TMO falling over other guild actions i reply to him TMO would fall over their own member actions,

and i was rigth .

like you probably have in bda friends i have them in tmo , i joined them before the emrge with dark ascension i have watched tmo evolution for years . and others guild aswell .

sure im just a regular member who played this server for 4 years wich lvled several chracter wich never got banned and never was involved in anything if dont count making sexual jokes about alien sperm but u know what?.

Being tmo or not when someone asked me for help i always give them , yet u judge me on the basic of my guild tag , no because my actions in game.


and sadly generalize about people based in religion , skin colour politic afilition instead for their acts as individuals still happen alla round the world.

[YendorLootmonkey]

Originally Posted by Arteker [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

im a regular member of my guild i dont have power

You have the power to /guildremove yourself from the very same toxic element that drug Coldblooded's RL pic through the mud. Same power that Xasten and Elethia have. But you guys don't. You can stir up shit in the TMO forums about the great injustices all you want while they laugh at you... yet you still stay.

Do not come here now and say you had the power to do nothing about it. You could have removed your association with them and found a better guild that didnt stoop to those levels.

[Xadion]

Originally Posted by YendorLootmonkey [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You have the power to /guildremove yourself from the very same toxic element that drug Coldblooded's RL pic through the mud. Same power that Xasten and Elethia have. But you guys don't. You can stir up shit in the TMO forums about the great injustices all you want while they laugh at you... yet you still stay.

Do not come here now and say you had the power to do nothing about it. You could have removed your association with them and found a better guild that didnt stoop to those levels.

Yendor seriously do not come I here and lecture people and be all white knighty about leave your guild, stake a stand! BDA, VD, IB, TR, FE, Fishbait, DA, Div, etctectec are ALL far from innocent in a TON of shit. Get you and your shovel back to RNF. And there was a post of yours I was going to quote in another thread and do a DosEques meme 'I don't always agree with Yendor posts, but when I do...' I just haven't been on a comp yet to make it heh. Still on my phone [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[Arteker]

Originally Posted by YendorLootmonkey [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You have the power to /guildremove yourself from the very same toxic element that drug Coldblooded's RL pic through the mud. Same power that Xasten and Elethia have. But you guys don't. You can stir up shit in the TMO forums about the great injustices all you want while they laugh at you... yet you still stay.

Do not come here now and say you had the power to do nothing about it. You could have removed your association with them and found a better guild that didnt stoop to those levels.

you could have said the same when VD was the most caugth mq shoeq caugth guild with over 100 players got shafted.

what was done then yendor?.