Modified Limit System, Any comments tweaks accepted.

[Yinikren]

You spend points not having to compete with casual scum. There are no free mobs.

[khanable]

I'd rather see the points exclusive to things outside of VP

Keep VP FFA. No limit. FTE rules, no trains. Compete until you hate your life.

[Ele]

Originally Posted by khanable [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Compete until you hate your life.

That's why some people "compete".

[Happyfeet]

Least that makes sense Cucumber. I'm not threatening to leave so I get what I want, I'm simply telling you what I am going to do if this carebear shit gets fully implemented.

I'm the first to invite other guilds on our raids (e.g. Talendor with Europa was fully my idea a few weeks ago) but I'm not going to stick around to kill 3 mobs a week. You all who are still leveling and gearing up have things to do in this game besides raid, I ONLY log in to raid. You have to see the difference.

And trying to count VP mobs against us is just nonsense. And it's not like we're not willing to accept some sort of agreement, but most of your attitudes are "You either do what we say or big mean rogean is gonna keep you suspended" and that's a bullshit attitude to have. Trust me, the idea proposed in this thread, is not going to be the one used - it's trash.

[Yinikren]

Mobs outside of VP would need a points increase if that was the case, because you are taking away one of the main reasons they would go there - to spend points NOT having to compete with every other guild.

The idea is still to moderate mob intake per guild so more guilds get attempts.

[Fazlazen]

Originally Posted by Yinikren [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Mobs outside of VP would need a points increase if that was the case, because you are taking away one of the main reasons they would go there - to spend points NOT having to compete with every other guild.

The idea is still to moderate mob intake per guild so more guilds get attempts.

So basically, having a force of player keyed to VP should penalize you.

[Yinikren]

No. You don't get penalized by getting better quality mobs. The idea of my thread (which is not this one, btw) is that guilds have to decide what mobs to pursue each week. You don't get VP handed to you for free. You get to go there and not have to compete with casual scum for normal mobs.

[Yinikren]

I've said it before, I will say it again - you will not like any of the raid terms you are going to have to agree to and abide by because none of them benefit your guild.

[kotton05]

I blame AoE chardok for leveling people to TMO apps

[quido]

Trying to engage in a serious discussion with Anthrax, Yendor, or Yinikren is futile. Do yourselves and favor, guilds, and keep these people out of the process when the time for formal negotiations comes.