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Old 12-28-2013, 04:31 PM
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I've seen ideas like this, but I don't think its fair telling the rest of the server that after their week of raiding is done they should go on vacation for 3 weeks until the first of next month.

Much easier IMO to limit mob intake on a weekly schedule so other guilds can start competing for pieces of the mob pie.
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Old 12-28-2013, 04:33 PM
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Old 12-28-2013, 04:34 PM
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Thanks for your input, knew you of all people wouldn't like it Jeremy. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.] Any option where your guild isn't getting 80% of the mobs simply isn't an option to you, is it?
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Look, I really want to make this better for the nonhardcores here. But if a small faction of people is going to cockblock progress because they're not getting exactly what they want.....
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Old 12-28-2013, 04:34 PM
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I've seen ideas like this, but I don't think its fair telling the rest of the server that after their week of raiding is done they should go on vacation for 3 weeks until the first of next month.

Much easier IMO to limit mob intake on a weekly schedule so other guilds can start competing for pieces of the mob pie.
You mean the rest of the server can stop trying for 3 weeks. You act like its a sin for guilds to try to compete for loot. This is taking 25 percent of the loot right off the bat out of the hands of the top 2 guilds on the server who are atm controlling 97 percent of the loot. Why can't guild compete for 3 weeks with the big guilds??? Why do you keep saying vacation???
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Old 12-28-2013, 04:36 PM
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If guilds have had success competing for the last two years with the top guilds... we wouldn't be having this conversation because there wouldn't have been a raid monopoly.

Hence the vacation statement, because fixing one week of raiding a month doesn't fix the server.

I am 100% for competition of mobs across the server. I am 100% against a server fatass eating too much of the mob pie.
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Look, I really want to make this better for the nonhardcores here. But if a small faction of people is going to cockblock progress because they're not getting exactly what they want.....
Abomination Snowman - 60 Grave Lord
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Niluvien Forestwalker - 52 Ranger
Russled Jimmies - 54 Wizard
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Old 12-28-2013, 04:38 PM
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Why can't guild compete for 3 weeks with the big guilds??
You know why. Because the extremes at which competition exists for mobs against the big guilds currently requires Taken to maintain a non-stop poopsock of Innoruuk over his entire spawn window if they want him. I know my guild doesn't find that appealing at all. Can a representative of Taken please describe the toll that is taking on the people in the guild that are doing that?
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Old 12-28-2013, 04:41 PM
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Can a representative of Taken please describe the toll that is taking on the people in the guild that are doing that?
Speaking from Taken, the simple fact that anyone has to poopsock a mob for 4 straight days just to have a chance at engaging it before TMO or IB/FE is absolute garbage and not conducive to friendly raiding on the server.

This idea fixes that because it limits what the big guilds can kill on a weekly bases and lets more guilds into the raiding scene.

It doesn;t stop a guild from socking Inny if they really want it. It DOES stop a guild from claiming its 12th kill that week while everyone else gets left with wasted time.

They pick: epic mobs, loot mobs, or key mobs.
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Look, I really want to make this better for the nonhardcores here. But if a small faction of people is going to cockblock progress because they're not getting exactly what they want.....
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Old 12-28-2013, 04:45 PM
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Point system. Cap a guild at 25% of the non-vp raid mobs per month.

TMO can whine and complain about effort all they want; they've put in their 'effort' and profited from it immensely over 2 years now.

We're starting new. You won't need to put in as much effort. So that point is moot and I'm sick of hearing it.

Take your competition to VP.
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Old 12-28-2013, 04:47 PM
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Ok i concede i like the point system, check out my idea and see what you think yin
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Old 12-28-2013, 04:54 PM
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I looked, I like it a lot. Some of the points costs are off on both our ideas, but the server can agree on a fair price I am sure to keep several guilds in the running. Both ideas foster competition and I like that. Neither idea hands mobs to guilds.
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Look, I really want to make this better for the nonhardcores here. But if a small faction of people is going to cockblock progress because they're not getting exactly what they want.....
Abomination Snowman - 60 Grave Lord
Proud owner of Innoruuk's Curse that did NOT come from TMO's bank or RMT.
Niluvien Forestwalker - 52 Ranger
Russled Jimmies - 54 Wizard
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