With no GM authority, these raid talks are worse than useless

[kotton05]

I can see taken and bda, being able to mobilize within 2 hours of a spawn, unless its super late.

[Nirgon]

^ Rogean should follow through on dictating and enforcing this or stay out of it. Staff enforced rotations aren't classic. Velious will do more good than any of this.

Giving another mess for Sirken and Derubael to deal with is crazy. Further, with such a rotation variance should be removed. That's something I'm sure Rogean isn't willing to do. What a mess.

[JackFlash]

Staff enforced rotations aren't classic

I keep hearing this....

Plenty of servers had rotations. GM's weren't needed to keep them until the occasional guild stepped out of the box and said F the rotation. P99 is a very different environment.

As it's been said before (it's not 1999 anymore) we know everything, have a million toons each, and essentially the mystery is gone. Staff enforced (player derived) seems to be the best option left. They already tried the laissez-faire approach [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[-Catherin-]

No reason why we cant just pool some ideas, and try the best few out for a couple weeks at a time. See which idea works best in practice, not just in theory

[HeallunRumblebelly]

Originally Posted by -Catherin- [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

No reason why we cant just pool some ideas, and try the best few out for a couple weeks at a time. See which idea works best in practice, not just in theory

Because there is no one objectively 'best'. CSR 'best' would be to not have to be involved, tmo best is going to vary wildly from taken best. And as we've seen proposed, people know exactly what will work in their interests and what will not because we have 3 years of kunark raid data behind it.

[Nirgon]

Never such a thing as a staff enforced rotation.

[JackFlash]

Originally Posted by Nirgon [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Never such a thing as a staff enforced rotation.

Regardless, we are heading that way. If we had the same situation in 1999 I'm sure they wouldn't have sat idly by while their community went to shit. I'm glad R is finally standing up to it.

[Daldolma]

Originally Posted by Nirgon [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Never such a thing as a staff enforced rotation.

Quellious GMs both mandated and enforced an NToV rotation in early Velious.

[Nirgon]

Originally Posted by Daldolma [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Quellious GMs both mandated and enforced an NToV rotation in early Velious.

Never played there. Find a few more staff to help spread the load.

Originally Posted by khanable [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Point system.

No guild should be getting more than 25% of the world spawns in a given month (excluding VP).

Sorry TMO -- you've had 2 years of near complete lock down outside of maybe one other guild getting 20% of the spawns and a handful of others getting, what, 1-4%?

Your own website is testament to this.

They sure did put in a lot of time and effort.

[khanable]

Originally Posted by Nirgon [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

They sure did put in a lot of time and effort.

So much effort camping 50 toons at every spawn, that they bought apparently with duped plat
So much effort training the fuck out of anyone who walked into VP
So much effort starting CT DT cycles when they didn't have the kite
So much effort having 3 retards stall tank something

TMO didn't put in "effort". They griefed and played a game of 'who can be the bigger asshole and not get caught' for 2+ years.

They whine and bitch about having "competition" -- what competition? Who can click a DA idol and get yellow text faster? That's competition? What a load of shit.