All Devs would need to do is implement a trial Variance.

[Stasis01]

Nirgon is against boxing which is classic - his entire shtick of "things must be classic" have all fallen apart from that point on.

A subscription fee is irrelevant - no boxing is a custom idea that helps or hurts the box depending on your thoughts on it.

[Retti_]

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I'll help you with this one, probably again but in very clear terms.

You mention that most people in Nihilum don't even like each other. Yet still, they form up in larger numbers, raid, collect dkp... maybe loot and leave.

However, the rest of the server that does not like each other is incapable of doing the same thing.

How about instead of hoarding things like pointless dkp that will never go toward a meaningful raid mob, you join banners, wipe both your entire "dkp systems" and go with something straight forward from 0? Oh, greed. The same reason why Nizzar and company don't want variance (GREED).

Variance is TERRIBLE, even if I got to sit here and laugh at Nihilum raging about losing their convenient Sunday raid day. Part of me does hate seeing a guild who was allowed every exemption in the book at no consequence that fields a developer who is also breaking the rules, succeed on this server. It's terrible and a disgrace. In fact, since things got better... how many true scumbags has Sirken banned despite having reasons to do so? That's neither here or there in this argument, but it does state that I show no favor of any kind towards Nihilum.

But, to me, that isn't worth ruining classic EverQuest by adding instancing or variance to content.

Recap: lots of people don't like each other in Nihilum but raid together and attack assist targets anyways, you should too. Variance is retarded and will end up with the same people who have all day to play EQ showing up for mobs at odd hours and none of you doing the same. The end.

Shameless plug for add item loot / fix resists.

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[Stasis01]

I have seen everyone mass into one guild and fight Nihilum under the same banner - you know what happens?

People realise if they are going to put up with people they don't like, and play with a massive amount of players JUST to have a chance at raids mobs, they might as well just join Nihilum, since it's a Nihilum clone.

That is exactly what we don't want - as it is PROVEN not to work or make this fun/retain players.

[Stasis01]

If people can't compete unless it's by making their own zerg, all you're doing is mimicking Nihilum and will do it the same.

If somehow a guild manages to overtake Nihilum, maybe Nizzar dies IRL or something crazy - the neckbeards will all leave Nihi and join the NEW zerg, resulting in the SAME situation.

[Retti_]

Or lite and team stomp their feet like faggots that didn't get their way and rant about sky dkp and it being unfair if they merge and create a new system

[Stasis01]

I have heard the real situation about that - and it was the work on the database/recording DKP that was the issue as it was going to be thrown out completely, which I can understand.

More trolling. Play better, stop arguing about DKP, band together blah blah it's lite, checkraise, holocaust, griefing, don't work together - EXCUSES, the systems broken - MORE LAME excuses.

[Retti_]

Originally Posted by Stasis01 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I have heard the real situation about that - and it was the work on the database/recording DKP that was the issue as it was going to be thrown out completely, which I can understand.

More trolling. Play better, stop arguing about DKP, band together blah blah it's lite, checkraise, holocaust, griefing, don't work together - EXCUSES, the systems broken - MORE LAME excuses.

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[Gaffin 3.0]

Your also making out variance to be some huge population bringer which it isnt. This is emulated eq with pvp server, not everyne wants to pvp so they go blue and still struggle with the same problems yet they have 800 pop non stop. Only reason Zek or any other pvp servers had pop was because of the huge playerbase being in the 10's of thousands. This box or teams will never be more than 300 pop steady with or without variance.

[Stasis01]

Originally Posted by Gaffin 3.0 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Your also making out variance to be some huge population bringer which it isnt. This is emulated eq with pvp server, not everyne wants to pvp so they go blue and still struggle with the same problems yet they have 800 pop non stop. Only reason Zek or any other pvp servers had pop was because of the huge playerbase being in the 10's of thousands. This box or teams will never be more than 300 pop steady with or without variance.

I don't even know how to reply to this garbage, only that you should use you're at the beginning.

[Stasis01]

I have proof that no one can compete here, as history is the evidence.

The fact that only Nihilum members argue with me is further lols. I know Rogean doesn't give a fuck about red, but maybe if I point this out enough they'll realize how hilarious the Red99 end game situation is.