About Spawn variance.... - Page 7

Humerox · #61 07-23-2010, 07:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Skope [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The problem is this poopsocking for 5 days for a target -- even splitting a raid force in two to hold two targets -- isn't classic either. Shortening the spawn variance simply makes the aforementioned 24 hours easier. Does it solve that problem? No, it doesn't. Not it any way shape or form. Would I like to see patch-day respawns? Absolutely! I know the GMs have stated they wanted to steer away from that, but if it were done at various intervals, say 3am one night then 4pm the next patch, it would spread things out for people in various time zones. There's also the issue of purposeful zone crashing, but really that's happened with the rules we have now, so I really don't see how it could possibly be getting any worse nor how it would affect the spawns, but ultimately that's a separate argument and somewhat of a digression.

Just to clarify, camping one of the big 4 with 20 people isn't "effort," it's the exact opposite. It's laziness as a tactic and right now it's being applauded and is the ONLY way to kill one of the big four. It's a seriously disgusting tactic that needs to go. Don't be delusional, there is no excuse for what's become of the raiding scene at the moment. But this proposal won't fix that, nor does it truly add what patch-day respawns did for live. I'm not trying to be bitter, but there have been better thought-out proposals that have been swept under the rug because a few people nitpick at the smallest details and avoid the giant elephant in the room.

Well said, Skope! [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

astarothel · #62 07-23-2010, 07:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Skope [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Just to clarify, camping one of the big 4 with 20 people isn't "effort," it's the exact opposite.

Effort reflected by time involved in a straight rotation = 0
Effort reflected by time involved in poopsock camping > 0

Humerox · #63 07-23-2010, 07:10 PM

Effort involved in FTE = +1

Uaellaen · #64 07-23-2010, 07:16 PM

you guys are all insane ... do you realise, this is a game and made for enjoyment? not for work and camping mobs for 90 hours? in my opinion you are all egoistic people that should reconsider why they are even here ...

Supreme · #65 07-23-2010, 07:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Starklen [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I'm not sure if you misspoke, but the median is the middle value, not the lowest.

16 is the median number. If it was the mean it would be the average. Both could be used interchangeable.

When i reference 16 as the lowest it is by dropping the latter 48 hours.

However this is all IRRELEVANT as Evorix pointed out it is a 7 day spawn with a +/- 24 hour (or 48 hour random spawn) window.

Uaellaen · #66 07-23-2010, 07:22 PM

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However this is all IRRELEVANT as Evorix pointed out it is a 7 day spawn with a +/- 24 hour (or 48 hour random spawn) window.

he obviously can not read ...

http://www.project1999.org/forums/sh...spawn+variance

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Spawn Variance

A variance of +/- 48 hours will be added to the following: Lord Nagafen, Lady Vox, Cazic-Thule, Innoruuk.
A variance of +/- 24 hours will be added to the following: Dracoliche, Maestro of Rancor.
*Phinigel will remain a static 12 hour spawn.

Supreme · #67 07-23-2010, 07:23 PM

I thought so as well...perhaps the Devs/GMs will offer some clarification?

Uaellaen · #68 07-23-2010, 07:24 PM

i dont see what you need more then the official post of nilbog who is leading this project ...

Evorix · #69 07-23-2010, 07:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Uaellaen [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

he obviously can not read ...

http://www.project1999.org/forums/sh...spawn+variance

perhaps you dont kill raid bosses and have no experience in the matter... yes the thread says that and i have even asked a gm about it. but the point is ever since ive been raiding no mob has been outside the 24hr and 48hr windows. is this intended? no idea

Supreme · #70 07-23-2010, 07:27 PM

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Q: Can we continue to camp the raid mobs?
A: Certainly. If you want to have fifteen of your guild members sitting at every spawn site (six mobs to be precise) for 96 hours straight anticipating a spawn with the ability to mobilize not only those fifteen people but as well as any other required members to kill your intended target, all within the 30 minute time frame. By all means go ahead. I am sure after a few failed sessions due to not being able to mobilize quick enough, people won`t be willing to sit there for 4 days straight for months on end.

This statement leads me to believe it actually is a 5-9 day spawn and not a 6-8 day spawn.

From this i would really like to see it be a 5-7 day spawn to be more in line with live. It will not stop perma camping but it will offer more content.