auction tracker on wiki

[NegaStoat]

Originally Posted by Econ [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

All the arguments being made for the auction tracker is that it saves you guys time, and you are paranoid of being ripped of.

Actually, I argued that the wiki tracker assisted in reducing to the "Price check on X" followed with "Lol at that price nub" argument bullcrap that follows with it being missing. So your sweeping argument there failed.

Moving on, back in 1999-2001 EQ had official forum boards as well as Allakhazam having boards with specific sub forums for each server. Numerous posts were listed over and over with price checks on items, they were referenced by players, and don't tell me otherwise in a feeble attempt to prove your point. It happened.

Furthermore, top guilds on each server had their own web pages and consistently had item sales as a sub forum for people to browse through, which again was a server specific source for doing a price check. Conveniently forgot about this happening as well?

Stating that people back in the old days had to spend countless hours to be informed on item prices is sheer bullcrap. The sources were there. And if the wiki isn't restored, we'll see a return of them in multiple formats.

[Econ]

Originally Posted by SCB [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Auction tracker was only ever of limited use, but it's more valuable than not having it. There are items I only ever camped after spending some bathroom time on my tablet skimming the wiki for stuff I could camp.

Anyone arguing against it on "shits classic" principles is arguing a fight they can't win. Shit like the tracker existed in classic too.

Bring it back as soon as possible.

Hate to tell you, but PC's are as classic as CC's are.

It never existed on classic. Just another entitled new-aged MMO player chiming in.
The reason you guys want auction tracker is:
1) You save time by not camping EC.
2) You are scared of being ripped off.
I have yet to see anything other then these.
Auction tracker never existed on live. Allakhazam's price lister was a comprehensive list that included ALL servers for each item, making it completely inaccurate.
You guys want the EC tunnel dumbed down, just admit it. It isn't your fault, you have had your hands held this long so I can see why you require it moreso.

[Econ]

I love how you guys compare a fucking data mining price tracker to Allakhazam's inaccurate comprehensive price list. Fucking hilarious how stupid you are.
Every counter argument is the same.. I hate to break it to you, Allakhazam did not have an accurate price list. Comparing guild message boards to the auction tracker is also laughable. If you cannot see how these differ then I feel sorry for you.

[SCB]

Originally Posted by Econ [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I love how you guys compare a fucking data mining price tracker to Allakhazam's inaccurate comprehensive price list. Fucking hilarious how stupid you are.

You're a fucking idiot, and I'm glad you demonstrated it the first time I read your post, so I don't have to read any more.

[webrunner5]

This is what is says at the bottom of Wiki.

"Note: This is a wiki for a reason. If you see something that's wrong or can be improved, don't ask that it be fixed, please just improve it. As they say on wikipedia, edit boldly.
[ Please note: The p99 wiki is an unofficial, community supported resource which may contain inaccuracies, and is not administered by the p99 developers." ]

The devs have NOTHING to do with it. And shut the hell up about being "CLASSIC" shit. If I hear that one more time on here I will puke.

If you just started on here you have no clue in hell what stuff cost. Just what you need to find out that you looted your ass off to pay 200 plat for a item that is really worth 100 plat to some Jew Bastard in the tunnel flipping shit. If we can not get new blood on here this server is dead. And if they get ripped off by Richgirl types guess what. The hell about your supply and demand stuff.

[NegaStoat]

Originally Posted by SCB [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You're a fucking idiot, and I'm glad you demonstrated it the first time I read your post, so I don't have to read any more.

Yup.

As stated above, the Wiki price tracker was a player-adjusted feature. GM's & Admins had no interaction with it. It took the place as a cleaner, easier to use price tracking source as opposed to a server specific forum board thread listing.

But hey, continue with the F bombs and name calling. It will add credibility to your view somehow.

[Econ]

Originally Posted by webrunner5 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

This is what is says at the bottom of Wiki.

"Note: This is a wiki for a reason. If you see something that's wrong or can be improved, don't ask that it be fixed, please just improve it. As they say on wikipedia, edit boldly.
[ Please note: The p99 wiki is an unofficial, community supported resource which may contain inaccuracies, and is not administered by the p99 developers." ]

The devs have NOTHING to do with it. And shut the hell up about being "CLASSIC" shit. If I hear that one more time on here I will puke.

If you just started on here you have no clue in hell what stuff cost. Just what you need to find out that you looted your ass off to pay 200 plat for a item that is really worth 100 plat to some Jew Bastard in the tunnel flipping shit. If we can not get new blood on here this server is dead. And if they get ripped off by Richgirl types guess what. The hell about your supply and demand stuff.

You are full of misconceptions. First of all, EC traders do not make shitloads of plat by overcharging people. If we overcharge we quickly lose our business because people won't buy from us. We buy items for less than they are worth, and the seller knows this by checking the wiki. We then sell said items at the normal market rate. The wiki does not effect this, wether its on or off it is the same profits. People get tired of spending countless hours in EC so they dump them cheap. We don't rip everyone off and add it to our jew bank while discussing further ways to prey on the ill-informed; like the majority of the repliers may think.
My argument is soley that EC is a sub-game within EQ, and the wiki is giving you all the information you need to win it. The wiki interfers with the market more than it helps it, its like a communist big brother telling us what we can sell our loot for. This server is supposed to replicate classic, so why would you get mad when I compare it to Classic? Isn't that the point?
You people villanize EC traders, and think we are all about ripping people off; this is a very stupid generalization.

[Glasken]

+1

Originally Posted by Weekapaug [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Prices do find equilibrium, with and without the tracker. That has nothing to do with this. The tracker doesn't set prices. Players do. The tracker just tracks them. That's it. You can get the same info that's on the tracker by sitting in EC and tracking it yourself. But not everyone wants to do that, and there's no good reason NOT to have a tracker.....Unless you are trying to rip people off.

I'm sorry, but it's just complete BS to actively want to take advantage of people who don't sit in EC all day every day by depriving them of info that can easily be tracked and has been.

[Weekapaug]

And what you fail to realize is that the wiki isn't the only tracker. When the wiki was down last week, people were using a different one that someone has up. And people were broadcasting the url in /ooc and /auction.

All you have to do is park a toon in EC, parse the log, and put the info on a website.

Jumping up and down crying about the wiki having an auction tracker is ridiculous, regardless of your argument against it. All removing the tracker will do is make people keep an extra tab up on their browser for the other one.

[Glasken]

Originally Posted by Econ [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Hate to tell you, but PC's are as classic as CC's are.

It never existed on classic. Just another entitled new-aged MMO player chiming in.
The reason you guys want auction tracker is:
1) You save time by not camping EC.
2) You are scared of being ripped off.
I have yet to see anything other then these.
Auction tracker never existed on live. Allakhazam's price lister was a comprehensive list that included ALL servers for each item, making it completely inaccurate.
You guys want the EC tunnel dumbed down, just admit it. It isn't your fault, you have had your hands held this long so I can see why you require it moreso.

I honestly cannot tell if you are serious about this or if you are just trolling for tears.

Alla was never the only site listing items and prices. As stated before, other third party sites and guild sites all had this info. Are price checks via guild and ooc classic? Absolutely! Not everyone knew about or took the time to check all resources available to them. But the sources did exist. The one you used most often depended on your server, the guild you were in ect.

The arguments for the wiki price tracker (or even the wiki itself) being removed are flawed in that they are not inherent to the game mechanics. They mimic the same kind of resources that were around back in the day. Even if the overly vocal minority who want the tracker permanently removed had their way, other sources would pop up in short order. There has already been a secondary auction tracker linked in this thread, one that has existed along with the wiki tracker for at least a year (more?).

This is a dead issue. Online resources about items were around in 1999. People used those online resources. Online resources about items are available today, specific to p99, and will be wether the wiki tracker lives or dies.