How to enable Luclin Graphics

[eqravenprince]

Originally Posted by Dulu [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Then perhaps you should take a 101 level philosophy course, and then kill yourself.

Apparently different thoughts on the world bother you more than it does me. Perhaps you need to take your own advice.

[eqravenprince]

Originally Posted by Dulu [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Then perhaps you should take a 101 level philosophy course, and then kill yourself.

Another thing... my post "It does bother me that people SEE the world differently than me. " It has very little to do with philosophy and more to do roleplaying and cosmetics. If I put on a tunic and it looks cool using classic models, but looks retarded using luclin models, that bothers me. If someone is chatting with me and says I have red hair because they are using Luclin Models when I truly have black hair, that bothers me. EQ is an immersive world to me, part of what makes it immersive is everyone seeing what I'm seeing.

[frefaln]

@Critical Error: so you wouldn't care if you rolled a beefy Ogre male yet others saw you as a dainty High Elf female? Of course my example is extreme, but where is the line drawn exactly? And yes, there are substantial differences between Luclin/old-world models, so different that they almost come close to the extreme I just mentioned.

One of the human models is a scruffy blonde guy with an eyepatch. I have no idea what the equivalent is on the Luclin side, but I wouldn't be surprised if it's nowhere close to that.

This is the essence of role-playing games, particularly those of the multiplayer variety. Immersion is greatly improved when you have the peace of mind of knowing that what you see is what someone else sees. If you don't think that matters, fine, but a lot of other people understand why it would.

All that said, I still don't think it's a big deal if someone "cracked" it such that he can see Luclin models. But I definitely understand and adopt Dumesh's philosophy.

[soup]

Originally Posted by frefaln [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

@Critical Error: so you wouldn't care if you rolled a beefy Ogre male yet others saw you as a dainty High Elf female? Of course my example is extreme, but where is the line drawn exactly? And yes, there are substantial differences between Luclin/old-world models, so different that they almost come close to the extreme I just mentioned.

Personally, I wouldn't care one bit. If people want to make their male ogres look like female high elves, I'm not sure why I should care. I'll still look like an ogre on my screen.

[legendbyname]

Originally Posted by frefaln [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

This is the essence of role-playing games, particularly those of the multiplayer variety. Immersion is greatly improved when you have the peace of mind of knowing that what you see is what someone else sees. If you don't think that matters, fine, but a lot of other people understand why it would.

All that said, I still don't think it's a big deal if someone "cracked" it such that he can see Luclin models. But I definitely understand and adopt Dumesh's philosophy.

I don't understand how you can say this. It's important for everyone to see what you see, but they can't see what they want? Well it matters to a lot of people to use Luclin models regardless of what you think of them. If someone can get this working properly without requiring the developer's time then they're shouldn't be any problem.

Personally I don't care what anyone else sees, I relate to my character by what I can see.

[Reiker]

Megaman 1 graphics > Luclin models.

[guineapig]

Here's what it all comes down to. You guys can't do anything about it.

The people that want the Luclin models now have the ability to do it without any help from the devs.

In other words, tough. Hate to be so blunt about it but all this talk is pointless because we have no power over what other people will do on their end.

(I'm keeping the old models myself but will test this out once just to see if it actually works)

And once again, props to the OP for figuring this out. I'm impressed.

[frefaln]

The talk isn't pointless at all, I've enjoyed hearing perspectives other than mine. Don't like that? Tough.

[guineapig]

Originally Posted by frefaln [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The talk isn't pointless at all, I've enjoyed hearing perspectives other than mine. Don't like that? Tough.

Point taken.
I will rephrase.

The conversation itself wasn't pointless but:

We probably shouldn't totally shit up this person's thread with hate.
They went out of their way and found a really interesting way to customize their gaming experience.

I don't see this kind of talk on the custom UI threads.

Does it work as explained?
Does it not work?
Any bugs?

That would all be more on topic as opposed to:
"I'm not going to try it because I don't like that you can do this".

People are going to make their own decisions and have their own perspective.
I have the utmost respect for Dumesh and his posts, and I also don't see a problem with what you posted frefaln. I'm just trying to show a little respect for firesyde424 as well for putting in some work and posting it here for others.

[firesyde424]

Originally Posted by guineapig [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Point taken.
I will rephrase.

The conversation itself wasn't pointless but:

We probably shouldn't totally shit up this person's thread with hate.
They went out of their way and found a really interesting way to customize their gaming experience.

I don't see this kind of talk on the custom UI threads.

Does it work as explained?
Does it not work?
Any bugs?

That would all be more on topic as opposed to:
"I'm not going to try it because I don't like that you can do this".

People are going to make their own decisions and have their own perspective.
I have the utmost respect for Dumesh and his posts, and I also don't see a problem with what you posted frefaln. I'm just trying to show a little respect for firesyde424 as well for putting in some work and posting it here for others.

I'll admit I got caught up in this too. My bad! Thanks for pointing this out. The 2nd post in this thread lists the bugs I've found. If you are trying this out and find some other bugs, let me know. If you find a solution to one, let me know that too. =)