Going to Prison...hopefully Velious will be released when I return.

[Stabbyjoe]

Shop and maintenence are still on the compound. You're still behind steel and concrete. If all you have is a drug charge you should be in some sort of out-custody. Which means you'll be able to get a job with city/county work crews or churches. You'll have a guard with a high powered rifle watching you all day... but atleast you're "out".
I was in for a violent crime (burglary of an occupied dwelling) and I was still able to get B-Out custody. I don't know exactly what the difference is.. just that I wore black and white stripes and the A-Out guys wore green and white.

[Raavak]

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[timhutton]

BRB U.S. economy is in the gutter, gotta go steal some cash from the trailer park to buy some crack with

Damn murica, making life so hard

#realsociety

[abacab-winner]

Originally Posted by timhutton [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

BRB U.S. economy is in the gutter, gotta go steal some cash from the trailer park to buy some crack with

Damn murica, making life so hard

#realsociety

You're so dumb, that you forget the economy works two ways.

It's not people that go "oh man economy is bad better smoke crack" it's corporations that go "can't afford minimum wage (lol) better hire prisoners for $0.06 a day!" so big time corporate lobbyists spend millions on state campaigns strengthening misdemeanor laws on the books to have some sort of mandatory sentence.

[timhutton]

Originally Posted by abacab-winner [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You're so dumb, that you forget the economy works two ways.

It's not people that go "oh man economy is bad better smoke crack" it's corporations that go "can't afford minimum wage (lol) better hire prisoners for $0.06 a day!" so big time corporate lobbyists spend millions on state campaigns strengthening misdemeanor laws on the books to have some sort of mandatory sentence.

Funnily enough, no I can completely acknowledge that. Private prisons in particular are a joke. However it still comes down to a simple-to-understand easy fucking formula.

Don't break the law, you won't end up in jail. It doesn't matter whether or not you agree with the law or what the law means, breaking it means you're a criminal. Criminals deserve consequences.

People cannot just walk around breaking laws and then go "fuck it's not my fault, the system is broken". Shitheads need to accept responsibility.

Breaking the law is breaking the law.

[abacab-winner]

Originally Posted by timhutton [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Funnily enough, no I can completely acknowledge that. Private prisons in particular are a joke. However it still comes down to a simple-to-understand easy fucking formula.

Don't break the law, you won't end up in jail. It doesn't matter whether or not you agree with the law or what the law means, breaking it means you're a criminal. Criminals deserve consequences.

People cannot just walk around breaking laws and then go "fuck it's not my fault, the system is broken". Shitheads need to accept responsibility.

Breaking the law is breaking the law.

I support breaking unjust laws and if jurors knew what nullification is and applied it in terms of unjust laws it'd be no problem.

[timhutton]

Originally Posted by abacab-winner [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I support breaking unjust laws and if jurors knew what nullification is and applied it in terms of unjust laws it'd be no problem.

You support breaking unjust laws? I have 0 sympathy for you and your kind. Breaking unjust laws is more "wrong" morally than the unjust law existing in the first place.

Repeal/change them peacefully, slowly, and legally (See the way Marijuana is headed) the way the system is intended to operate. If you don't like that route people can move to wear that law has no mandate.

Simply breaking them because you think they are "unjust" is wrong and people that do deserve punishment.

Jury nullifications haven't really been a thing in American since the 19th century, they are virtually obselete.

[SNIPERS]

Originally Posted by timhutton [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Funnily enough, no I can completely acknowledge that. Private prisons in particular are a joke. However it still comes down to a simple-to-understand easy fucking formula.

Don't break the law, you won't end up in jail. It doesn't matter whether or not you agree with the law or what the law means, breaking it means you're a criminal. Criminals deserve consequences.

People cannot just walk around breaking laws and then go "fuck it's not my fault, the system is broken". Shitheads need to accept responsibility.

Breaking the law is breaking the law.

I respect your opinion and each man is entitled to their own. Its easy to make a quick judgement about the majority of 'criminals' when you haven't walked a pair in their shoes. Maybe you are living a normal life, had money for an education, and have a normal job...that's how your story goes. I'm not making excuses for myself or anyone else. I am responsible for my actions and knew of the consequences, but not everyone was dealt the same hand and sometimes people have to make something out of a forced hand. Also maybe you never tasted easy money before and how easy it is to get caught up in it. Yes the majority of the 'criminals' are uneducated by society's standards, but that doesn't make them Shitheads. Half the criminals in prison are decent people who just made a mistake and have to pay...least thats what I think I am.

[timhutton]

Originally Posted by SNIPERS [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I respect your opinion and each man is entitled to their own. Its easy to make a quick judgement about the majority of 'criminals' when you haven't walked a pair in their shoes. Maybe you are living a normal life, had money for an education, and have a normal job...that's how your story goes. I'm not making excuses for myself or anyone else. I am responsible for my actions and knew of the consequences, but not everyone was dealt the same hand and sometimes people have to make something out of a forced hand. Also maybe you never tasted easy money before and how easy it is to get caught up in it. Yes the majority of the 'criminals' are uneducated by society's standards, but that doesn't make them Shitheads. Half the criminals in prison are decent people who just made a mistake and have to pay...least thats what I think I am.

For clarifications sake; I was saying that people that break the law and then blame the system rather than owning up to it are the shitheads, in reference to Gaffin's "Real society" bullshit.

As far as my personal background is concerned, I despise criminals for the very fact I came up from being very poor and saw many around me turn to a life of crime while I stayed on the straight and narrow and did things the right way.

Those "forced hand"s your describing is usually just people being lazy, or as you said going after the "easy money" instead of putting real work in.

Given my own background I will never have any respect for the individuals that take the easy/quick way out.

Nobodies perfect, but when people decide to take "the easy money" when they know its wrong and it's breaking laws and then they try to justify it via having a "forced hand" or not being born rich, those are exactly the type of people I'm calling shitheads.

EDIT: For even more clarification, you don't sound like a shithead. Gaffin/jonny lawbreaker abacab are the ones that sound like shit heads, but everyone already knows they are. Kinda sad when you can tell someones character simply by the way they act on a video game.. eh Bouncer?

[pharmakos]

supposedly there are lobbyists from the major corporations trying to pull strings in washington so that there will be more and cheaper labor available in prisons.

some conspiracy theorists even believe that the war on drugs is just a secret way to increase profits for prisons.