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12-16-2013, 01:29 PM
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He does have a point that evaluating whether AC is broken or not is probably best done with a mid level character where you can stack a lot of armour.
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12-17-2013, 03:45 PM
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Heck I remember much the same, pre-kunark I could tank better than a warrior (as a monk), always took a half to one less CH when testing on Fire giants. Rangers would go crunch, kunark there was alot of mucking about with disciplines, and ac became king. IN Velious I recall more the mobs ac and hp being ridiculous, but I recall it differently in that hp was more important for tanks because of the diminishing returns for AC after a certain point.
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12-17-2013, 08:46 PM
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1) If AC implementation here is similar to live, there are hardcaps only, no softcap implemented yet at this time.
2) Sakuragi's test was a fairly small sample size. Based on what I've seen with the RNG here while doing tradeskills, I wouldn't risk any generalizations with less than a few thousand samples per config of ac/level/mob. His results are no stranger than I've had doing blacksmithing. Honestly it appears that there is a hardcap somewhere in the rough vicinity of 1000 displayed AC. It might vary with level, and go a bit higher than that, but really that's the explanation that fits what I've observed, what Fregar says he has observed, and Sakuragi's data also given the small sample size. | ||
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01-13-2014, 04:09 PM
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So, what is the conclusion on the code sharing and existing state of AC? Stack stats over AC at this time at all levels? or only when displayed AC exceeds 1000?
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01-21-2014, 12:01 PM
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01-22-2014, 12:51 PM
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So, I have some parse data and tests done for AC comparisons on my level 35 Erudite ShadowKnight while fighting dark blue/light blue mobs.
Damage report with 639AC Code:
-------------------------------------------------------- DAMAGE TAKEN REPORT (AC) -------------------------------------------------------- Data for 405 hits: Breakdown (attacks done to you): -------------------------------------------------------- Misses: 48.14814814814814814800 Dodges: 3.45679012345679012300 Parry: 2.46913580246913580200 Riposte: 2.71604938271604938200 Hit For: 43.20987654320987654300 Damage Spread (damage taken and how often it was taken): -------------------------------------------------------- 3 (25.1429%) 18 (2.85714%) 45 (1.71429%) 23 (1.14286%) 25 (0.571429%) 2 (16.5714%) 47 (2.28571%) 42 (1.71429%) 16 (1.14286%) 17 (0.571429%) 29 (4.57143%) 39 (2.28571%) 36 (1.71429%) 12 (1.14286%) 15 (0.571429%) 4 (3.42857%) 34 (2.28571%) 26 (1.71429%) 53 (0.571429%) 13 (0.571429%) 37 (3.42857%) 11 (2.28571%) 24 (1.71429%) 41 (0.571429%) 10 (0.571429%) 8 (2.85714%) 7 (1.71429%) 9 (1.14286%) 40 (0.571429%) 5 (2.85714%) 6 (1.71429%) 43 (1.14286%) 35 (0.571429%) 31 (2.85714%) 50 (1.71429%) 38 (1.14286%) 27 (0.571429%) Averages: -------------------------------------------------------- 15.8171 damage taken per successful hit 6.83457 damage taken per swing (adding avoidance) Code:
-------------------------------------------------------- DAMAGE TAKEN REPORT (AC) -------------------------------------------------------- Data for 338 hits: Breakdown (attacks done to you): -------------------------------------------------------- Misses: 47.63313609467455621300 Dodges: 1.77514792899408284000 Parry: 4.73372781065088757300 Riposte: 2.07100591715976331300 Hit For: 43.78698224852071005900 Damage Spread (damage taken and how often it was taken): -------------------------------------------------------- 2 (25%) 25 (2.7027%) 41 (1.35135%) 13 (1.35135%) 23 (0.675676%) 3 (14.8649%) 18 (2.7027%) 40 (1.35135%) 9 (0.675676%) 22 (0.675676%) 10 (5.40541%) 6 (2.02703%) 39 (1.35135%) 7 (0.675676%) 17 (0.675676%) 4 (4.05405%) 5 (2.02703%) 35 (1.35135%) 50 (0.675676%) 15 (0.675676%) 34 (4.05405%) 36 (2.02703%) 26 (1.35135%) 42 (0.675676%) 12 (0.675676%) 8 (3.37838%) 31 (2.02703%) 24 (1.35135%) 32 (0.675676%) 11 (3.37838%) 16 (2.02703%) 21 (1.35135%) 29 (0.675676%) 37 (2.7027%) 47 (1.35135%) 14 (1.35135%) 28 (0.675676%) Averages: -------------------------------------------------------- 13.723 damage taken per successful hit 6.00888 damage taken per swing (adding avoidance) In 750AC on average I was hit for 13.723 when hit (6.00888 per swing if you factor in those enemy misses/dodges/ripostes/parries) In 639AC on average I was hit for 15.8171 when hit (6.83457 per swing if you factor in self avoidance) The spread also seems much more favorable (less high damage spike attacks received). Conclusion: As a level 35 Erudite ShadowKnight, 111 AC does make a noticeable difference when fighting dark blues/light blues.
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01-22-2014, 01:13 PM
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