HBB was this you?

[Malice_Mizer]

Originally Posted by gotrocks [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I've seen girls who are blacked out drunk ask guys for sex, beg them for it, guy is drunk and goes for it then gets accused of rape the next day.

Guy had no idea she was blackout, just that she was drunk and so was he.

he would have gone to prison if it wasn't for a bunch of eyewitnesses saying she was conscious and asking for sex. lucky for him she was doing it loud enough for other people to hear.

Well he'd have been one of the pathetically few who actually have some sort of action pursued against him.

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Everybody seems to ignore the very basic history of rape that gives this entire issue its vital context. Rape has been the story of women in all its forms since the beginning of the human species: rape of livelihood, rape of personhood, rape of domestic slavery, rape of objectification. You need to read a freaking book. Try "Woman At Point Zero," or any other factual account of a woman's experience in a traditional society for some context rather than glean clues about the essence of womanhood from hentai.

Case closed.

[Daldolma]

why are people equivocating over the notion that fucking an unconscious person is rape

[Barkingturtle]

Originally Posted by Daldolma [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

why are people equivocating over the notion that fucking an unconscious person is rape

Orgasms feel rad.

[Samoht]

Originally Posted by gotrocks [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I've seen girls who are blacked out drunk ask guys for sex, beg them for it, guy is drunk and goes for it then gets accused of rape the next day.

Guy had no idea she was blackout, just that she was drunk and so was he.

he would have gone to prison if it wasn't for a bunch of eyewitnesses saying she was conscious and asking for sex. lucky for him she was doing it loud enough for other people to hear.

The whole 'girl who's unconcious is getting raped' thing is a fine line. On one hand, yeah, going up to a girl who's passed out and fucking her, is definitely rape. having sex with a girl who just a moment ago was sucking your dick and letting you fuck her and then passed out and you finish is not rape, but i assure you there's many women who claim it was the next day.

not condoning rape in any form, just saying its not all black and white, there is a gray area when it comes to this topic. Guys should be just as susceptible to this as women (i have male friends who have been fucked while they were passed out or close to it and saying no, and you'd better believe the police laughed at him when he tried to report a rape. If he had been a women they would have had a rape kit out and had her in the hospital within 30 mins of the phonecall).

this. this. a thousand times, this. this person lives in the real world, not like hbb, alawen, kagatgoaietab, or malice_moron.

[Alawen]

Originally Posted by Samoht [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

this. this. a thousand times, this. this person lives in the real world, not like hbb, alawen, kagatgoaietab, or malice_moron.

There was no mention of blacking out. You invented that from whole cloth.

[Samoht]

Originally Posted by Alawen [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

There was no mention of blacking out. You invented that from whole cloth.

Last night I fell asleep drunk

oh really

if it was just simple "fall asleep" she would have woken up at some point during the action. if she was awakened, it would have been easily defined as rape instead of lightly alluded to.

that leaves two cases:

1) blacked out
2) passed out

it's not defined. passed out is not automatically assumed.

[Alawen]

Originally Posted by Samoht [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

oh really

if it was just simple "fall asleep" she would have woken up at some point during the action. if she was awakened, it would have been easily defined as rape instead of lightly alluded to.

that leaves two cases:

1) blacked out
2) passed out

it's not defined. passed out is not automatically assumed.

You can invent whatever you want, but don't be surprised when you're considered a rape apologist.

[Samoht]

Originally Posted by Alawen [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You can invent whatever you want, but don't be surprised when you're considered a rape apologist.

excuse me for knowing the difference between blacked out and passed out and having lived long enough to know the difference. i'm sorry for you for not knowing.

Originally Posted by Alawen [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Responding to evidence from expert sources with anecdotes and hearsay is not debunking. You're only impressing yourself.

it's neither hearsay nor anecdotal but common knowledge that rapes are underreported.

Originally Posted by Malice_Moron [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Men are least likely to report being raped by a woman..?

who the fuck said that? you're making shit up (again) to try to make people look bad.

Originally Posted by Malice_Moron [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Those statistics even bear out the reality that men are at least somewhat often raped by other men. Any statistics or studies or evidence whatsoever to back up this claim?

duh? you might need it interpreted for you probably by some uber dyke, but unlike you, i can read and analyze for myself.

[QUOTE=Malice_Moron;1020667]The fact that you jumped from, "Rape is under-reported. I have a gut feeling that men are less likely to report rape. Therefore, women are also just as culpable for the rampant rape in our society!" is totally astounding to me.

made up shit, again.

Originally Posted by Malice_Moron [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Those statistics even bear out the reality that men are at least somewhat often raped by other men.

duh.

Originally Posted by Malice_Moron [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Any statistics or studies or evidence whatsoever to back up this claim?

what the fuck are you talking about? the underreported nature of rape? every fucking source on the internet says that rapes go underreported. pick one.

Originally Posted by Malice_Moron [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

$10 says you're a registered sex offender.

moar. made. up. shit.

[r00t]

I posed the both parties drunk on a law forum once and they said basically the bitch always wins

[Samoht]

Originally Posted by r00t [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I posed the both parties drunk on a law forum once and they said basically the bitch always wins

yeah, and this appears to be the opinion of several people on this thread that also seem to be crying about social injustice in the trayvon thread.

minorities/women aren't always victims and are not automatically given the benefit of the doubt. sorry.