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Old 07-03-2013, 03:03 PM
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every law is not just, and many unjust things do not have laws governing them.
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Old 07-03-2013, 03:05 PM
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You following a random black person because you suspect they might commit a crime is an aggressive act, whether this or that bullshit court would recognize it as a crime.
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Old 07-03-2013, 03:06 PM
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Old 07-03-2013, 03:06 PM
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I guess this is where we differ. I agree that's an adequate defense against a first degree charge, but the crime he's accused of is more nuanced. That he recklessly and willfully created an environment wherein he caused the death of someone else is the crux of the case. It overwhelms the self-defense argument. That's why the state filed that way, I'd guess.
i think you're overstating the nuance. in order for murder of any degree to stick, the prosecution still needs to prove that zimmerman was not acting in self defense when he pulled that trigger. whether or not he was generally liable for the encounter may be supporting circumstantial to the charge of murder, but not nearly enough to convict. and it doesn't overwhelm the self defense argument.

at the end of the day, there's no way to prove what they need to prove. which is why zimmerman originally wasn't even going to be charged. when you see the prosecutor asking one of his star witnesses whether it's illegal to wear a hoodie, then asking the judge to strike his own witness's statement from the record when he says he believes zimmerman's account... that's generally not a great sign. they're grasping at straws because of the outrage from not trying the case at all
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Old 07-03-2013, 03:07 PM
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You following a random black person because you suspect they might commit a crime is an aggressive act, whether this or that bullshit court would recognize it as a crime.
Sounds preventative to me
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Old 07-03-2013, 03:08 PM
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You following a random black person because you suspect they might commit a crime is an aggressive act, whether this or that bullshit court would recognize it as a crime.
the other day i had two people behind my house looking over my privacy fence. This was od and I was a little unsettled with it. I will say it didnt matter what color they were. They were both on opposite sides of the house I was trying to watch them both.

And yes motherfucker I had my beretta in my hand. With a "come at me bro" look on my face.
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That is another word for what you are, yes.
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Old 07-03-2013, 03:10 PM
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Sounds preventative to me
That's because you're a fucking redneck.
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Old 07-03-2013, 03:11 PM
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zimmerman had many chances to disengage with the situation, and was in fact directed to do so by police personnel. if self defense isn't crushed by that, this will be a travesty.
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Old 07-03-2013, 03:12 PM
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it is very clear that zimmerman sought a confrontation, regardless of who swung on who first.
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