PSA: ATTN - If you are bound in raid zones, read this

[Sirken]

Originally Posted by heartbrand [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Amelinda was well aware of it. It has been FOURTEEN months with ZERO comment on the issue, and even at the time of the debate of changes to red, not once was there a proposal of retroactive change to peoples binds. NO ONE, not a single person, EVER took the stance that retroactive removal of binds was appropriate or would be enforced, over the course of a two month debate of changes to Red, and not one post or comment was made by a GM on the issue, including ones such as Amelinda who witnessed it. To now call it an "exploit" seems pretty ludicrous to me given these facts. I have ZERO issue with now going forward instituting this rule, I just take issue with it being called an "exploit", and it seems to be in line with everything else on this server, rules made up and changed on the whim with zero idea for the players what is an exploit what is not what is legal what is not.

i give zero fawks what amelinda was aware of. the entire reason bind was apparently removed from these zones was due to players abusing the privilege of being bound there, and giving themselves unintended advantages. when we as a staff removed binding from these zones we did not do that to further grant an advantage to players bound there, we did it to put an end to all that. now its been pointed out that some players are still bound there.

so in short, until Everyone can bind there, Nobody can bind there.

[p-niner]

HB lawyering beats himself. Oil Baron XantILLE would be embarrassed to be lumped in with you as a member of the same alumni.

Says make all dragon zones no bind, then explains how perma and solb are unbindablr becausr considered FFA zones.

Not... sure... if... srs.

[heartbrand]

Originally Posted by p-niner [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

HB lawyering beats himself. Oil Baron XantILLE would be embarrassed to be lumped in with you as a member of the same alumni.

Says make all dragon zones no bind, then explains how perma and solb are unbindablr becausr considered FFA zones.

Not... sure... if... srs.

Where did I ever say that? I illustrated how the logic contradicts itself. You have custom FFA rules for Sol B and Perma and based upon the logic for said rules it should extend to KC as well, but it does not. I apologize that this mind blowing logic went over your head.

[p-niner]

Originally Posted by heartbrand [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Where did I ever say that? I illustrated how the logic contradicts itself. You have custom FFA rules for Sol B and Perma and based upon the logic for said rules it should extend to KC as well, but it does not. I apologize that this mind blowing logic went over your head.

Kc a FFA zone?

[Nirgon]

Sirken I'm going to save you from this, just try and decide which lense you should view their posts with.

I suggest the "shut up and do it" approach.

[FaithlessKR]

Jesus christ I only went through the first 6 pages, then got bored because 75% of the posts were heartbrand furiously ranting about shit that doesnt matter. You need help bro.....

[Gustoo]

Nirgon is right.

"Classic" needs to stop being a reason for anything on this custom server. I totally love it but it makes me ill having the worst features of classic while all of the important aspects are completely non classic.

Give us a classic ruleset and work on classic resists and IMO most importantly classic NPC aggro in city zones.

Then "classic" can justifiably be used as a reason for anything here.

I'm not saying that changing raid zone bind rules isn't a good idea but don't say it is for a classic experience because as mentioned FFA zones are not classic and you seem to like those. Just say you think its good for the box.

Thanks for all your hard work devs.

[Nirgon]

No my reason is you should do what Sirken tells you to do and stop thinking you actually are in charge here.

It's obviously not classic, I'm not here, I give 0 fucks but show Sirken some respect.

[karsten]

guys my whole schooling and career has been specifically designed to make me an expert on this and other issues related to the everquest universe

[heartbrand]

Originally Posted by Nirgon [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

No my reason is you should do what Sirken tells you to do and stop thinking you actually are in charge here.

It's obviously not classic, I'm not here, I give 0 fucks but show Sirken some respect.

Questioning rules is basically the quintessential trait of liberty.

As to Hagard, there's a huge difference between exploiting pathing or money dupes or something that doesn't have a rule written about it but is clearly wrong, with something like this, retaining your bind post change following a vigorous two month debate during which not once was it suggested retroactive bind removal should be applied.