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06-05-2013, 03:50 PM
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06-05-2013, 03:50 PM
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congress shall not respect establishment of religion has nothing to do with a courthouse displaying the 10 commandments, the police station having a christmas tree, or the teacher leading a prayer for a recently deceased classmate.
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06-05-2013, 04:16 PM
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06-05-2013, 04:01 PM
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You know whats funny about Atheists. During my FFXIV 1.0 time, I had a friend that talking to me telling me how he is Atheist. The reason for this was because he doesn't understand why there is a God that would create so much horrible evil (which is funny because most people who try to use this as an excuse don't actually understand the purpose of God). So I asked him, "You believe in a God that would do this and that?" He responded with a yes. So then I asked him, "So you believe in God." He responded by telling me no. I was a bit confused since he was contradicting himself.
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06-05-2013, 04:38 PM
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not even devils advocate, just don't like intellectual inconsistency
you're drawing distinctions that don't matter. whether the us and ussr and nazi germany were ostensibly secular or actually secular is as relevant as whether medieval europe was actually christian or just using a guise of christianity if someone told you the spanish inquisition wasn't true christianity but was instead power politics operating under a guise of righteousness, you'd slap that shit out of here and rightfully so. but then don't pussy out when atrocities happen in states that have claimed to discard state religion in order to operate on secular motives hitchens is praising the secular shift of government that has allowed for freedom of religious (and anti-religious) speech. in the same breath, he's invoking the thousands of years of horrors committed by supposedly religious governments and stating that we should never forgive them for what they did while in power. if we're going to be even-minded, then we should talk about what else came with this supposed secular shift. have we rooted out or at least lessened the atrocities seen in less secular times? no. atrocities continue on par with the worst of the past and supposedly secular governments have been some of the worst offenders. blaming religion is a cop out. | ||
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06-05-2013, 05:02 PM
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Your entire argument is predicated on the idea that the atrocities you mention came because of the secular shift in the same way that the advances hitchens mentions, which I dispute, and I have said why. Everything follows from that, which is false.
You accuse me of intellectual inconsistency. I accuse you of intellectual sloth.
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