What is Anarchy?

[Ephirith]

"Unfortunate" is absolving yourself of any responsibility or self-determination, which is decidedly undemocratic, don't you think?

[Samoht]

because you can control the events in your life. you will always have 100% health and at no point can you be laid off at the whim of your employer (or their stock holders).

[Ephirith]

When you have the freedom to control your own financial destiny, you're subject to everything that entails. Smart people are cautious, and allot the best they can for the unforeseen. And guess what? People with surprise medical conditions and surprise layoffs didn't account for even a small fraction of all the financial insolvency the last couple of years.

Too many people didn't save money, accumulated debt, and bought shit they didn't need and couldn't afford, then blamed the banks and government when they lost everything. Those people deserve paternal totalitarianism, and their behavior is very conducive to it. "I didn't make a mistake. The government was supposed to protect me!"

[Samoht]

all of the pre-approved credit card spam, all of the everybody gets a loan car dealerships, they're not designed to help out the people on the bottom. they're designed to trap people who cannot afford them into things they will eventually miss a payment on (or worse), and the second it happens, here comes the sharks.

but they should be more educated to know better? it's too bad that our education is ran by the same system that is profiteering from our bad loans.

our system is designed for the poor to stay poor and for the rich to get richer, and the people in our government are on board with it.

[Barkingturtle]

Maybe poor people should consider taking some action and bleaching their skin, then.

[Ephirith]

Originally Posted by Samoht [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

all of the pre-approved credit card spam, all of the everybody gets a loan car dealerships, they're not designed to help out the people on the bottom. they're designed to trap people who cannot afford them into things they will eventually miss a payment on (or worse), and the second it happens, here comes the sharks.

That's exactly how it works, and the "victims" of those things who blame anything but themselves are fucking stupid and, again, don't deserve financial self-determination.

Originally Posted by Samoht [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

but they should be more educated to know better? it's too bad that our education is ran by the same system that is profiteering from our bad loans.

Worked fine for me, my family, my friends, and almost everyone I met in college.

Originally Posted by Samoht [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

our system is designed for the poor to stay poor and for the rich to get richer, and the people in our government are on board with it.

This is true. All I'm saying is the fault is shared at least equally between the government, and the electorate.

Why are you so obsessed with blaming every possible thing but yourself?

[Barkingturtle]

That's an interesting take on the thread but I think any casual observer can tell at least one or two of the participants have taken an intro to philosophy course at one time or another. I mean, Plato has been invoked.

[Samoht]

Originally Posted by Ephirith [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Worked fine for me, my family, my friends, and almost everyone I met in college.

white, christian, republican, suburbia?

Originally Posted by Ephirith [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Why are you so obsessed with blaming every possible thing but yourself?

hm, pretty sure i'm not to blame for anything here.

but i'm able to understand the concept that shit happens.

and sometimes, shit can even be devastating.

[Tanthallas]

Originally Posted by Ephirith [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

That's exactly how it works, and the "victims" of those things who blame anything but themselves are fucking stupid and, again, don't deserve financial self-determination.



Worked fine for me, my family, my friends, and almost everyone I met in college.



This is true. All I'm saying is the fault is shared at least equally between the government, and the electorate.

Why are you so obsessed with blaming every possible thing but yourself?

Just play a recording of any one of Ron Paul's idiotic speeches; will save us having to read what you write.

[Ephirith]

Originally Posted by Samoht [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

white, christian, republican, suburbia?

2/4, p good. I'll let you guess which ones. What does that have to do with anything? I guess so you can blame some more shit on circumstances instead of taking responsibility for your life?

Originally Posted by Samoht [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

hm, pretty sure i'm not to blame for anything here. but i'm able to understand the concept that shit happens. and sometimes, shit can even be devastating.

Look, I'm not saying shit doesn't happen, I just disagree with the ubiquitous tendency to blame authority, conspiracies, evil corporations, corruption, and the successful for everything bad that happens. I think if our culture were a lot more responsible, our government would be too, because I think our authority is a reflection of our culture (albeit one with low fidelity). Why is that so absurd? Why is our generation pathologically fucking incapable of anything but narcissism and entitlement?

Originally Posted by Tanthallas [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Just play a recording of any one of Ron Paul's idiotic speeches; will save us having to read what you write.

Can't say I've ever had someone mistake me for a libertarian, that really hurts.