Time to End Account Buying/Selling?

[BlackTriad]

Originally Posted by Vexenu [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

It's absolutely asinine for people to come in here and say things like, "Why do you care about account selling? It doesn't change the way you play the game. Let people have fun and play the game the way they want."

This is simply not the case. The rampant buying and selling of accounts has major implications at all levels of the game, from casual to hardcore, 1-60.

1) It eliminates the importance of reputation, since a banned player can simply buy a new account
2) Encourages cheating, for the same reason
3) Turns the raid scene into a farce that is largely based on accumulating accounts and camping them out at raid targets
4) Artificially de-populates the lower levels of the game since fewer people level alts, which hurts new players
5) Contributes to the top-heavy nature of the server since accounts don't necessarily leave when players do
6) Is a major conduit for RMT, and is much more difficult to detect since suspicious in-game transfers don't need to take place
7) Artificially increases the demand and market price of mid to high-end gear, since it is being constantly bought and sold to outfit stripped chars people purchased
8) Eliminates feelings of community since character/player identities are so transient and ultimately meaningless

Imagine P1999 as being a nice public park that people can come enjoy, hang out, have picnics, fly kites, throw footballs, etc... generally do whatever they want.

People defending account sales would be like if a bunch of rednecks drove into the park in 4x4s and started doing donuts in the grass and running over bushes and generally making a wreck of the place, and told everyone else to fuck off because, "I'm enjoying the park the way I want to!"

[Hawala]

Originally Posted by Vexenu [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

5) Contributes to the top-heavy nature of the server since accounts don't necessarily leave when players do

8) Eliminates feelings of community since character/player identities are so transient and ultimately meaningless

[vulzol]

Account selling only really affects the 1%ers. When the 1%ers roll alts they are power leveled in high ZEM and populated zones like Unrest saying "f off" to everybody else. In fact, I'd say that account selling keeps these people out of lower level zones, leaving more mobs for newbies to kill.

On P1999 people will do ANYTHING to get an edge on the raid scene. Try to stop account selling and it'll move elsewhere under the radar. Epic MQing? Won't stop until the top guilds have a full raid camped out at every raid target.

Just give up. Unless you're sucking the dick of the leaders of a top guild you'll never see top gear and perhaps not your epic.

[webrunner5]

Originally Posted by vulzol [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Account selling only really affects the 1%ers. When the 1%ers roll alts they are power leveled in high ZEM and populated zones like Unrest saying "f off" to everybody else. In fact, I'd say that account selling keeps these people out of lower level zones, leaving more mobs for newbies to kill.

On P1999 people will do ANYTHING to get an edge on the raid scene. Try to stop account selling and it'll move elsewhere under the radar. Epic MQing? Won't stop until the top guilds have a full raid camped out at every raid target.

Just give up. Unless you're sucking the dick of the leaders of a top guild you'll never see top gear and perhaps not your epic.

What he said. Just play the game and have fun. He is right. Get in TMO and live on the damn server 24/7 or just STFU about crying about the raid scene.

[Estu]

To people talking about boxing being classic: the difference is that in classic, boxing was not easily available to everyone because you'd have to actually buy more accounts to do it. On P99, if boxing was allowed, everyone could do it with no monetary investment, so it would be much more widespread. Therefore, banning it altogether would in fact produce a sever closer to the classic experience even if it wasn't banned in classic.

To people saying that account trading will still happen when it's banned: obviously it will, but it will happen less. The war on drugs analogy made earlier is pretty apt here (though, supporting the opposite point that poster meant to support): yeah, people still do illegal drugs, but they do illegal drugs a lot less than if they were legal, because they have to worry about staying out of the eyes of the law and the social stigma attached to it.

[Gel Mibson]

some people want to enjoy the endgame without having the time to grind 100+ hours to get to level 60. i don't see the problem here.

[Rhambuk]

Originally Posted by Gel Mibson [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

some people want to enjoy the endgame without having the time to grind 100+ hours to get to level 60. i don't see the problem here.

Most of us have no problem with it, but there are a few that seeing accounts being sold makes them rabid at the mouth...

[Estu]

Originally Posted by Rhambuk [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Most of us have no problem with it

The 70% yes vote on this poll says otherwise.

[Rhambuk]

Originally Posted by Estu [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The 70% yes vote on this poll says otherwise.

okay, most people are against it...

ban it now so us veterans can stop wasting our time and move on

[Gel Mibson]

Originally Posted by Estu [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The 70% yes vote on this poll says otherwise.

thats 70% of the sample size who actually cared enough to vote. This probably represents 35% of the total forum member population which totals to roughly 25% of the total emu population, representing <5% of total player population.