Cold Case Files: VP in Seb

[kotton05]

Originally Posted by Alarti0001 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Was he pulling it looks like he might have had aggro he didnt know he had(since the juggs were reset) he stoodup and couldnt/didnt see over a hill.

Also, because something doesnt make sense to you, it doesn't mean the claim doesnt hold ground.

Why was he pulling... maybe he was pulling... corpses?

Your claim holds no grounds. You see one option and assume that is the only once because it fits your bias.

I never claimed one way or another, just saying his "lag" claim is bull because of the other 2 hours of training that happened=-) this is just a snippet of the fiasco, am I biased? yes, does it mean I'm wrong nope. Can you prove otherwise, nope.

So he was doing a CR.. lets see, tola+jugs non agro, while he is standing there, they come up and he fd's, wipes out a small group of FE, then stands again and jugs insta agro again. What am I missing?

[AenarieFenninRo]

What I found interesting in the second video is the following:
Visceral says in your guild chat "I have social agro"
then you see someone flash out of lich form on far side of lair
Person who was in lich is wearing dark blue robe white helm or face (known gear of Visceral)
Same person is seen running around the far side of the lair from camera with trak running after him... goes off camera, comes back, goes off again, and comes back again... and even lives right up until the 1:17 mark, after that its harder to keep track of them because camera keeps panning in and out of gnome vision.

I would say that i'm 90% sure thats Visceral... first the person comes out of lich form, and Visceral wears that dark blue robe. Cant be 100% on that because too far to see name... that is also the same person that runs around quite a bit with trak following, and the whole time that its happening Visceral has gone silent in guild chat

Now I grant you that is all anecdotal evidence, but without seeing the name you cant say that it WASNT or WAS.

[cs616]

Just for future reference, are you implying that TMO wouldn't have a problem with FE training them as long as we did it while pulling corpses, claimed we were lagging, and said it was an accident?

[Alarti0001]

Originally Posted by kotton05 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I never claimed one way or another, this is just a snippet of the fiasco, am I biased? yes, does it mean I'm wrong nope.

What 2 hrs of training?

I'll just remove all but your point.

yes bias doesn't mean you are wrong. But you can't seem to prove that you are right. My claim is that no one in TMO was ping ponging Trakanon to shroom lair.

Your point seems to be... bad stuff happened ... it was TMO's fault....althought I am not really claiming it was TMO's fault......

[Alarti0001]

Originally Posted by cs616 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Just for future reference, are you implying that TMO wouldn't have a problem with FE training them as long as we did it while pulling corpses, claimed we were lagging, and said it was an accident?

Nope but we dont petition obvious accidents unlike our competition. When we have had petition of multiple trains we are clear with GM's of what we think were accidents, like the Corova jugg train awhile back.

[maverixdamighty]

Originally Posted by Alarti0001 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Nope but we dont petition obvious accidents unlike our competition. When we have had petition of multiple trains we are clear with GM's of what we think were accidents, like the Corova jugg train awhile back.

TROLL

[Rellapse10]

Alarti just give it a rest bro that last Trak you fucked up.

Fact: you made the call to engage.

Fact: it was 2 early.

Fact: you are a poor raid leader even poorer RnF spokesman.

Fact: your 20 monks kept Trak "busy" while you tried to rez to get another attempt.

Fact: FE owned you.

[kotton05]

Originally Posted by AenarieFenninRo [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

What I found interesting in the second video is the following:
Visceral says in your guild chat "I have social agro"
then you see someone flash out of lich form on far side of lair
Person who was in lich is wearing dark blue robe white helm or face (known gear of Visceral)
Same person is seen running around the far side of the lair from camera with trak running after him... goes off camera, comes back, goes off again, and comes back again... and even lives right up until the 1:17 mark, after that its harder to keep track of them because camera keeps panning in and out of gnome vision.

I would say that i'm 90% sure thats Visceral... first the person comes out of lich form, and Visceral wears that dark blue robe. Cant be 100% on that because too far to see name... that is also the same person that runs around quite a bit with trak following, and the whole time that its happening Visceral has gone silent in guild chat

Now I grant you that is all anecdotal evidence, but without seeing the name you cant say that it WASNT or WAS.

yea this video is posted cause names can't be made out, inconclusive on who is doing what since I don't wanna dam anyone who doesn't deserve it, they was doing what was planned (I don't think the majority had malicious intent) , but im sure after this some will think twice about kiting trak or doing a giant FTE chain, this isn't VS, which a tactic like that is expected.

I know that I was in lair (monk is red) and I think visc was also at one point. Getting hit by AoE isn't a social agro, which is I think what visc thought his social agro was from. I'd have to hear visc's story, but as far as I know this isn't a case of who dun it, more like actions of a whole.

[Ele]

I like how Szeth was dead in lair with gear before the fraps even started.

[Alarti0001]

Originally Posted by Rellapse10 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Alarti just give it a rest bro that last Trak you fucked up.

Fact: you made the call to engage.

Fact: it was 2 early.

Fact: you are a poor raid leader even poorer RnF spokesman.

Fact: your 20 monks kept Trak "busy" while you tried to rez to get another attempt.

Fact: FE owned you.

LOL....

I didn't make a call to engage. I never do.

I agree it was too early

I am not a raid leader at all haha

more BS

Sure