when will platinum

[Sirken]

Originally Posted by Ele [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

but gas is a right, how will I get to work, it is a necessity, omg government intervention. we need bicycles!

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fixed that for you

Originally Posted by Droog007 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Gas prices might drop, yes .... the country might collapse at the same time though, so... valid option? Notsomuch.

yea. country fails if more people start taking public transportation and riding bikes.

unless your are a cross country trucker that transports goods or commodities, you dont NEED to drive. problem is we (myself included) feel we deserve not to have to take public trans or ride bikes. and um, if you think that would result in the country collapsing as opposed to all the other dumb shit our country has done since 98-99, then you are grossly mistaken

[Tenlaar]

Originally Posted by Sirken [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

unless your are a cross country trucker that transports goods or commodities, you dont NEED to drive.

Do you have any idea how many people in the US live outside of areas with mass transportation systems? That's a fairly ignorant statement.

Ignorant in the uninformed sense, of course, not the "u so stoopid" sense.

[Sirken]

Originally Posted by Tenlaar [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Do you have any idea how many people in the US live outside of areas with mass transportation systems? That's a fairly ignorant statement.

Ignorant in the uninformed sense, of course, not the "u so stoopid" sense.

oh im aware, and to be fair, i also said bicycles [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

but there are always other options if you're able to think outside the box, like car pooling, even that cuts down on gas use as it adds up over weeks and months. if u want to split hairs, go right ahead. the analogy was good, and it works [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[Droog007]

Originally Posted by Sirken [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

if america just STOPPED buying 4$ a gallon gasoline, you can bet your asses the prices would drop.

Supply and Demand - Economics 101, take it [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Gas prices might drop, yes .... the country might collapse at the same time though, so... valid option? Notsomuch.

[SirAlvarex]

Originally Posted by Sirken [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

right, but what i was getting at was, what if i opened an EC casino? the platinum would in fact be removed from the economy (by me) and it would also be scam free. as far as the seafuries, you do realize that the over farming of SFs is part of the reason for the inflated prices right? another big reason was people were able to plan for the removal of certain items (ie manastones), whereas on live they couldn't. and because these items no longer drop, the person with the most can control the market. most of what Silo69 says is right on the money though.

If you ran a casino it'd have a similar affect to having an NPC. It's just you wouldn't be around all the time. But it wouldn't hurt.

And yes, seafuries (especially the pre-nerfed ones) are the reason a lot of the plat got introduced in the market. It's just that now the amount of time spent at seafuries nets you much less in overall net value than it used to.

And anything you as a GM can do to get some of the plat out of the economy is awesome in my book. Well, anything that doesn't involve stripping my character to his underwear [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[Sirken]

you all got me off track!

right, but what i was getting at was, what if i opened an EC casino? the platinum would in fact be removed from the economy (by me) and it would also be scam free. as far as the seafuries, you do realize that the over farming of SFs is part of the reason for the inflated prices right? another big reason was people were able to plan for the removal of certain items (ie manastones), whereas on live they couldn't. and because these items no longer drop, the person with the most can control the market. most of what Silo69 says is right on the money though.

-Sirken

[tommydgun]

Originally Posted by Sirken [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

you all got me off track!

in order to stop a bunch of video gamers from talking about economics and answer sirken's question [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]...

i think that would be a wonderful idea, sirken. not only would it solve the issue by introducing a tax on players (because odds for casino are always better than yours), it would generally be targetted at players who have too much money to throw around, are desperate for plat, or are addicted to gambling and prices would inevitably drop. also it would fix a side issue of no more EC tunnel casino spam and scams.

DO EEEET!

or you could just introduce a head tax on anyone worth over X amount (say 200K plat) of 30-60%. that would work too...

edit: i also really like the idea of being able to win no longer dropped items such as guise since i wasnt around for the period where they dropped

[Itap]

Originally Posted by tommydgun [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

or you could just introduce a head tax on anyone worth over X amount (say 200K plat) of 30-60%. that would work too...

Obamanomics [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[Sirken]

Originally Posted by tommydgun [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

in order to stop a bunch of video gamers from talking about economics and answer sirken's question [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]...

i think that would be a wonderful idea, sirken. not only would it solve the issue by introducing a tax on players (because odds for casino are always better than yours), it would generally be targetted at players who have too much money to throw around, are desperate for plat, or are addicted to gambling and prices would inevitably drop. also it would fix a side issue of no more EC tunnel casino spam and scams.

DO EEEET!

or you could just introduce a head tax on anyone worth over X amount (say 200K plat) of 30-60%. that would work too...

edit: i also really like the idea of being able to win no longer dropped items such as guise since i wasnt around for the period where they dropped

bless your soul. since im not a player, money stays in staff hands, not goes back to economy, and of course GM Sirken will never scam you or any other player. so players can make very large bets will full confidence that if they win they will get paid out.
the tax thing wouldnt work, people would just hide their wealth in items (everything from fungi/CoF/Manastones to stacks of expensive and rare gems)
Wanna win items? show up to a super fun GM event next time it happens [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.] they are rare on purpose, but the rarer they are, the more appreciated they are.

[tommydgun]

Originally Posted by Sirken [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

the tax thing wouldnt work, people would just hide their wealth in items (everything from fungi/CoF/Manastones to stacks of expensive and rare gems)

they would only be able to hide their plat in items if they knew it was coming. not saying this is the best option but if it was stealth taxed it would work undoubtedly

i also want to thank sirken for coming to this thread of a very popular topic currently and giving legitimate input and concern. thanks man.