Luclin

[heartbrand]

People cry a lot about books but let's be honest, if you were of the appropriate level you spent all your time in PoP anyway so who cared you could book to Halas.

[webrunner5]

Originally Posted by Sirken [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Nexus(easyports), bazaar, character models, cats on moon, OP gear

all reasons i hate Luclin

All the reasons I loved Luclin. The zones were awesome. Beasts were the cats ass. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[iifetap]

I really hate reviving old threads and I'll sure a lot of people don't wanna see this thread, but the servers are down right now and I'm bored waiting for them to come back up, so I'm going to post anyway.

Luclin was my favorite expansion. It's probably because I just started playing a few weeks before it came out, but even then it was probably over 1-2 months (started a necro) before I was even able to teleport up there and get groups and get back to the grind. Their is a whole lot of crying about how it killed travel, but you are forgetting something, the devs for this server are capable of changing how the books work, they could remove all of the books from the starting areas and just leave a couple books around. The devs could also disable beastmaster and vah shir, so those wouldn't be a problem. Since there is also a lot of whining about how much quicker you level.......really? You don't think the devs could just destroy the ZEM for the new zones and make them on par with the rest of Norrath? I loved the bazaar (and the arena inside of it), I loved AA's, I loved mounts (Something the devs could also remove if its not what the people want).

If I wasn't so tired from lack of sleep (renewed addiction to EverCrack!) I would probably have more things to add in, but eh.

Edit: Even with all the new stuff that Luclin brought, I (and MANY MANY OTHERS) still wen't back to Kunark and Velious to have fun. I spent MONTHS (6+) playing around in cabilis.

[Weekapaug]

Loved Luclin. Loved PoP, too.

I'm here because I love EverQuest. Loved every era and expansion thru DoN, aside from GoD, and I didn't hate TSS....Wasn't crazy about it, but didn't hate it.

Loved classic. Loved Kunark and Velious. But I loved Luclin also. Ssra is one of my favorite zones in the game. Lower Guk take 3, after actual Lower Guk and OS. But with raid content added and snakes instead of frogs and the cycles were awesome. The itemization was pretty spiffy too. Clickys anyone? The spells some classes got were fantastic. You actually started seeing some true balance in classes with Luclin. And BSTs are pretty cool.

And AA is the shit. You can do things for your toon with AA that no gear can. And instead of shitting up the game for legit newbies who want to actually experience content at their level the way it was intended with 10,000 level 10 epiced rogues in funghis like we have here on p99, people at max level have something to do....At their own level.

In case you couldn't tell, no, I don't subscribe to the notion that classic thru velious was this pristine holy experience and everything after was complete shit. Don't get me wrong, I love the classic era and missed it for a long time. But that's largely nostalgia. EQ, in all of it's eras, has always been amazing. I've kind of been itching to go back to live for a while, even tho it's been like 5 or 6 years.

Sorry the pok books ruined being able to sell ports in EC to people. Bigger fish to fry.

Bring on Luclin. And bring on PoP, too. And I say that as someone who started the game April 99 and had 90 days /played on his main when it hit it's first birthday.

[t0lkien]

Luclin had some good bits, but broke the game. I know it's been said before, but just dropping that bomb here again.

I understand people liking it. However, that doesn't change that it was like the night of sex that led to a HIV diagnosis. The sex may have been good, but it wasn't anywhere near worth the result.

[iifetap]

Originally Posted by t0lkien [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Luclin had some good bits, but broke the game. I know it's been said before, but just dropping that bomb here again.

I understand people liking it. However, that doesn't change that it was like the night of sex that led to a HIV diagnosis. The sex may have been good, but it wasn't anywhere near worth the result.

Well, considering people with HIV/AIDS live full lives now........

[Swish]

Well I'm done with Velious over everyone posting a ton of screenshots, talking about what they'll camp and asking incessantly for a firm release date.

Bring on teh cats, bring on teh moon...

[t0lkien]

Originally Posted by iifetap [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Well, considering people with HIV/AIDS live full lives now........

Well, let's not push the analogy past its intended meaning...

[mwatt]

I have to agree with many that said PoP was the real beginning of the end. I personally think that the customer base was bifurcated into those that could spend hours and hours raiding and keying and those that could not. Yes this exists in Kunark but the gear disparity is not that bad. Granted, some VP gear is pretty damn good but it is only the elite that get that not a significant percentage of the majority, so the bifurcation has less impact. With increased gear disparity it requires double content in every release - this is one of the unrecognized downfalls to the SOE approach back then.

I also agree with those who say that "Cats on the Moon" suck. I always thought so, I am not just parroting Nilbog's stance like some others. It was disrespectful to the genre to do this.

Finally I will also agree with some that I could probably stand Luclin here, because there is more good than bad. AAs are great. Some of the Luclin zones are great. Level 65 is great (that IS Luclin is it not?). Perhaps if we had a Luclin with no cats and no bazaar, that might fly. I would vote for making the models optional.

[iifetap]

Originally Posted by mwatt [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Level 65 is great (that IS Luclin is it not?). Perhaps if we had a Luclin with no cats and no bazaar, that might fly. I would vote for making the models optional.

65 was PoP.