End of the rotation?

[radditsu]

Originally Posted by Kaines [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

As someone who does not raid on P99, but did raid on live from Velious to PoP, I wonder about a few things. The server I played on during live had a raiding guild setup not unlike P99 has now. There were 2 top raiding guilds on U.S. primetime, 1 big European guild, and anywhere from 3 - 6 other U.S. timezone raid guilds that were decidedly behind the top 3 (2 U.S., 1 European).

On that server, there were no rotations. Everything was get what you can when you can. I was a member of one of the lower guilds. During my time with the guild (Velious - PoP) we would rank anywhere from 4 - 6. Obviously not a top guild of any measure. But every single week, even when I started raided two or three months into Velious, we were still taking down multiple raid targets. Granted it wasn't AoW or NToV, but we raided, we killed stuff, we got pixels.

The thing I remember most about raiding during that time is that every Tuesday night (after the weekly server restarts) the first thing we did was figure out what target the top 2 guilds were going after. Usually they were gathering in Kael or Tov, and eventually Sleepers. We would use the time they spent there to take on other targets. We'd go to Fear, Hate, Trak, DN. Or hell, if Top guild 1 was in NToV and top guild 2 was in Kael, we'd go to HoT. ToV easily held 3 guilds at a time. One in North, one in West, and one in HoT. The number of raid targets meant that the top guilds couldn't be everywhere at once.

Usually by Thursday of each most of the best targets were down. ToV was clear, CT was killed, Kael was cleaned out, and eventually the Wardens (all but 1) would have been taken down. But even then, there was stuff to do. HoT for SS armor, Kael arena for dwarf armor, WToV for giant armor, Dain Ring wars, WW dragons, etc. Sure it was only raiding 1 or 2 nights a week, but is that any different than P99 is now?

So my question is this. What the hell is allowing TMO/IB the ability to seem to be everywhere? Is it really so bad that even the top Class R guild can't figure out how to get their guild to a secondary target while TMO and IB play train games in VP? I mean on my live server we had a Euro guild that would take any juicy raid target that popped when U.S. guilds were asleep/at work, so it's not like U.S. guilds could just leave something up overnight and expect it to be there the next day. We also had a 12 hour variance for most targets during live and we were able to manage just fine.

Kunark is not velious. Kunark is lightweight pussy shit. Kunark barely matters in velious. Also...highspeed internet...batphones...faster pc.... knowing the strats...zero linkdead clerics....and lets not forget....

KEKEKEKEKEKEKEKEKEKEKEKEKEKE ZERG RUSH.

Velious will not be as kind

[Ella`Ella]

Originally Posted by Kaines [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

As someone who does not raid on P99, but did raid on live from Velious to PoP, I wonder about a few things. The server I played on during live had a raiding guild setup not unlike P99 has now. There were 2 top raiding guilds on U.S. primetime, 1 big European guild, and anywhere from 3 - 6 other U.S. timezone raid guilds that were decidedly behind the top 3 (2 U.S., 1 European).

On that server, there were no rotations. Everything was get what you can when you can. I was a member of one of the lower guilds. During my time with the guild (Velious - PoP) we would rank anywhere from 4 - 6. Obviously not a top guild of any measure. But every single week, even when I started raided two or three months into Velious, we were still taking down multiple raid targets. Granted it wasn't AoW or NToV, but we raided, we killed stuff, we got pixels.

The thing I remember most about raiding during that time is that every Tuesday night (after the weekly server restarts) the first thing we did was figure out what target the top 2 guilds were going after. Usually they were gathering in Kael or Tov, and eventually Sleepers. We would use the time they spent there to take on other targets. We'd go to Fear, Hate, Trak, DN. Or hell, if Top guild 1 was in NToV and top guild 2 was in Kael, we'd go to HoT. ToV easily held 3 guilds at a time. One in North, one in West, and one in HoT. The number of raid targets meant that the top guilds couldn't be everywhere at once.

Usually by Thursday of each most of the best targets were down. ToV was clear, CT was killed, Kael was cleaned out, and eventually the Wardens (all but 1) would have been taken down. But even then, there was stuff to do. HoT for SS armor, Kael arena for dwarf armor, WToV for giant armor, Dain Ring wars, WW dragons, etc. Sure it was only raiding 1 or 2 nights a week, but is that any different than P99 is now?

So my question is this. What the hell is allowing TMO/IB the ability to seem to be everywhere? Is it really so bad that even the top Class R guild can't figure out how to get their guild to a secondary target while TMO and IB play train games in VP? I mean on my live server we had a Euro guild that would take any juicy raid target that popped when U.S. guilds were asleep/at work, so it's not like U.S. guilds could just leave something up overnight and expect it to be there the next day. We also had a 12 hour variance for most targets during live and we were able to manage just fine.

There are a few factors,

On live, there was no Chest or BDA tears

There were no batphones back then to alert everyone when a target popped at 4am

Players didn't have 6 accounts and 6 level 60's with all their friends and guildies having login info

Kunark wasn't out for 3.5 years

[Kaines]

Originally Posted by Ella`Ella [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

There are a few factors,

On live, there was no Chest or BDA tears

There were no batphones back then to alert everyone when a target popped at 4am

Players didn't have 6 accounts and 6 level 60's with all their friends and guildies having login info

Kunark wasn't out for 3.5 years

So what you're saying is... shit's not classic?

[Fenken]

RIP EQ raiding(as a whole on this server). Making alts and leveling up in casual groups is the only way to have fun here anymore. All other raiding, other than plane raids in essence, have been ruined by a bunch of whiny kids/adults who play this game as a job, not as a game.

It's sad how many good people I've leveled/guilded with over the last couple years and have gotten to know well, that have quit completely once they had gotten to the raiding part here.

Having to give up your own personal number for a fucking video GAME to get paged at any hour of the day to come kill something in 20 seconds...I mean, what is wrong with you people.

[Gimp]

Originally Posted by Fenken [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

RIP EQ raiding(as a whole on this server). Making alts and leveling up in casual groups is the only way to have fun here anymore. All other raiding, other than plane raids in essence, have been ruined by a bunch of whiny kids/adults who play this game as a job, not as a game.

It's sad how many good people I've leveled/guilded with over the last couple years and have gotten to know well, that have quit completely once they had gotten to the raiding part here.

Having to give up your own personal number for a fucking video GAME to get paged at any hour of the day to come kill something in 20 seconds...I mean, what is wrong with you people.

RIP Scars of Amerous

LOVE YOU FENKEN

[Blaza]

Originally Posted by Ella`Ella [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

There are a few factors,

On live, there was no Chest or BDA tears

There were no batphones back then to alert everyone when a target popped at 4am

Players didn't have 6 accounts and 6 level 60's with all their friends and guildies having login info

Kunark wasn't out for 3.5 years

There seems to be the rub.

[kaev]

Originally Posted by Blaza [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

There seems to be the rub.

I could use a good backrub about now.

[radditsu]

He looks fine for a fat guy. Stop attacking looks.

[radditsu]

Make fun of his girth

[captnamazing]

Katrik PM'd me a photo of Tiggles, and upon opening the link to behold this behemoth, something changed. All the items on my desk levitated. Suddenly, a force pulled my head toward the monitor. I could not resist. Don't start thinking I was going in to kiss his pixelated image, no, this was a force of NATURE. By this point, my entire body hovered above ground, stuck to the side of the glowing screen. I felt my bones breaking under the force, the chair raised up and slammed into my back, all the books on my shelf came off and started clubbing me in my head, trying to get to the screen. 'What's happening?' I wondered silently. I instinctively recalled Newton's theory of gravitation... "Gravity gives weight to physical objects and causes them to fall toward one another."

Could someone really be so fat that their image can create a gravitational pull greater than the Earth??

Using every joule of strength in my body (because why would you measure strength in ounces), I managed to unplug the monitor. Everything, including myself, instantly fell away from the screen. I was bloody, beaten, and shaking. That day, I learned that gravity is not a theory - it is a law.