not a single player has told me to plan on raiding

[Nune]

Originally Posted by freez [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

ahh. i remember back when i played blue.

i got to kill all the dragons and gods.. shits boring with a zerg.

so glad red doesnt have these kinds of problems.

Yeah, dragons and gods dont get killed by a zerg of 1 guild on Red. That's CLEARLY not how the server is right now [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

lol retard

[Lyra]

Originally Posted by maverixdamighty [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

i'd rather quit playing than play in your proposed server where the winner is the first person to hit a mob regardless if their raid force was sufficient etc. have fun with that. if FE gets important loots its because we earned it not because we whined until rules were changed to give us a chance.

This is what I don't understand. In classic, if another guild got there first and the guild that got there second saw that they didn't have the raid force capable of killing the mob, they would wait for them to wipe.

Why wouldn't that happen here?

[freez]

Originally Posted by Nune [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Yeah, dragons and gods dont get killed by a zerg of 1 guild on Red. That's CLEARLY not how the server is right now [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

lol retard

this can be fixed

variance will not be fixed

gonna refrain from calling you a retard aswell seeing as im not looking to get bent and bant over blue server chat for the twelth time.

[August]

Originally Posted by Enslaved [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

TMO translation: any argument or thread that completely obliterates the morale behind the idea of Variance should not be observed in the general P99 community.

I'm not in TMO. I just see you and max arguing at each other and it's not productive. We had good points for maybe the first 25 pages of this thread. Now on 77 or whatever, you guys are just arguing.

Let me ask you a question. Do you think you are going to convince anyone to see it your way? Do you think the stubborn people here are going to come to your side? This isn't just at Enslaved - this is at everyone who is arguing.

You can't win a forum argument. It doesn't happen.

[freez]

Originally Posted by Lyra [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

This is what I don't understand. In classic, if another guild got there first and the guild that got there second saw that they didn't have the raid force capable of killing the mob, they would wait for them to wipe.

Why wouldn't that happen here?

because there is no respect.

nothing left to do but

1 - quit
2 - deal with it.jpg
3 - play red where there isnt a variance, never will be.. etc


balls in your court brews. these are your options.

[maverixdamighty]

Originally Posted by Lyra [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

This is what I don't understand. In classic, if another guild got there first and the guild that got there second saw that they didn't have the raid force capable of killing the mob, they would wait for them to wipe.

Why wouldn't that happen here?

raids were't sitting on top of the mobs.

[maverixdamighty]

Originally Posted by Enslaved [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Hilarious. Red Herring, dude!!

Why would the force that got FTE be able to kill a raid target with insufficient force if there was an FTE shout? If your guild was ANY GOOD, they'd back off the target after they saw they weren't FTE.

with 100-200ish people on the target even if everyone disengages right away you are bound to do atleast 10k almost immediately.

[maverixdamighty]

Originally Posted by Enslaved [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I feel as if every time he cannot substantially argue a point, (ie every single time) it advances the cause of No Variance by a degree or two in the psyche of every person who reads this thread, even unconsciously. So yes, I feel that in winning what amounts to every single post on this thread, I also bring the server that much closer to What Should Be.

good thing no one cares what you feel other than yourself.

[maverixdamighty]

Originally Posted by Enslaved [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

100-200, so this is basically just a Trakanon thread now? What other mob would immediately draw 100-200 raiders? I honestly don't believe there's enough left over for VS there.

If Trakanon's loot is awesome enough to warrant this, what is the problem with having an actually fair and Classic spawn for FTE?

it's not classic, but keep acting like it is so you have a /random 100 chance at getting the loot you want.

[maverixdamighty]

Originally Posted by Enslaved [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

That's the problem, we can't act like it's a Classic server because it's nowhere CLOSE to a Classic server with Variance in play, netting the 2 guilds with everything, everything.

Adoiyeeee

your suggestions are not classic, this server is not classic, the closest we will get to being classic (yes deejay keeping in mind that we all know the encounters now) is to wipe the server and have no variance and content progression that mirrors classic, but people will complain about that too.