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Old 06-16-2023, 03:44 PM
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show me the policies that have been enacted/pushed through by the progressive caucus that have *checks notes* moved progress backwards

all of your posts boil down to "i think every single person on the left does this thing that i hate" and it's tired lol
Affirmative action, deployment of covid vaccines along racial lines, elected democrats advocating for a "white tax" on white business owners, policies on protests during covid based on whether they were pro-blm or anti-lockdown. Attributing *any* disparity between racial groups to racism (pejoratively known as the "racism of the gaps" theory, a reference to religious thinking among secular people). I mean, you're either willfully ignorant of this stuff or you just don't care.

This is where the "asteroid destroys earth: people of color most affected" meme comes from. I used to be mega-lefty myself, but this type of shit just became too blatant to ignore. I encourage you to join me in sane person land, comrade.
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Old 06-16-2023, 03:58 PM
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The CA law was aimed at repeated individuals constantly referring to the same person with the wrong pronouns and name. Not one time offenders. It combats bullying more than anything. It combats hate speech.
From the bill:
3011. (a) In making a determination of the best interests of the child in a proceeding described in Section 3021, the court shall, among any other factors it finds relevant and consistent with Section 3020, consider all of the following:
(1) (A) The health, safety, and welfare of the child.
(B) As used in this paragraph, the health, safety, and welfare of the child includes a parent’s affirmation of the child’s gender identity.

So if the parent doesn't affirm a mentally ill kids gender identity, the state can and will take your kid.

Here is a fun read about how successful the state was at "helping" this poor girl. That story should rip your heart out.

Los Angeles Trans Teen Suicide
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Old 06-16-2023, 03:58 PM
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show me the policies that have been enacted/pushed through by the progressive caucus that have *checks notes* moved progress backwards

all of your posts boil down to "i think every single person on the left does this thing that i hate" and it's tired lol
They tried to raise the SALT cap.

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Old 06-16-2023, 04:00 PM
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Affirmative action, deployment of covid vaccines along racial lines, elected democrats advocating for a "white tax" on white business owners, policies on protests during covid based on whether they were pro-blm or anti-lockdown. Attributing *any* disparity between racial groups to racism (pejoratively known as the "racism of the gaps" theory, a reference to religious thinking among secular people). I mean, you're either willfully ignorant of this stuff or you just don't care.

This is where the "asteroid destroys earth: people of color most affected" meme comes from. I used to be mega-lefty myself, but this type of shit just became too blatant to ignore. I encourage you to join me in sane person land, comrade.
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Old 06-16-2023, 04:08 PM
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From the bill:
3011. (a) In making a determination of the best interests of the child in a proceeding described in Section 3021, the court shall, among any other factors it finds relevant and consistent with Section 3020, consider all of the following:
(1) (A) The health, safety, and welfare of the child.
(B) As used in this paragraph, the health, safety, and welfare of the child includes a parent’s affirmation of the child’s gender identity.

So if the parent doesn't affirm a mentally ill kids gender identity, the state can and will take your kid.

Here is a fun read about how successful the state was at "helping" this poor girl. That story should rip your heart out.

Los Angeles Trans Teen Suicide
Don't worry, I'm sure Botten will have a great reason why this is totally not real, but also if it IS real it's actually a good thing.

This is where the slippery slope arguments come from, and why they are valid. It started as "How does what goes on in my bedroom affect you??" to "Tell your son he's a girl or we'll take him away".

Comply with every half-baked social theory we support or you'll lose your kids, but remember- we're just minding our own business here!
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Old 06-16-2023, 04:22 PM
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I'm not sure why they taught us that Slippery Slope isn't real, it's very real and we're slippin the days away.
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Old 06-16-2023, 06:11 PM
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From the bill:
3011. (a) In making a determination of the best interests of the child in a proceeding described in Section 3021, the court shall, among any other factors it finds relevant and consistent with Section 3020, consider all of the following:
(1) (A) The health, safety, and welfare of the child.
(B) As used in this paragraph, the health, safety, and welfare of the child includes a parentÂ’s affirmation of the childÂ’s gender identity.

So if the parent doesn't affirm a mentally ill kids gender identity, the state can and will take your kid.

Here is a fun read about how successful the state was at "helping" this poor girl. That story should rip your heart out.

Los Angeles Trans Teen Suicide
I get it why Baler would have fallen for the misinformation but OMG did you even research your linked article? Of course the Washington Examiner would skew the real story.

https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/washington-examiner/
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Factual Reporting: MIXED

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Entering foster care at 15 and later returned to the family at 19.

“Andrew [Yaeli’s trans name] M.’s death must be met with urgency to provide youth, including transition-age youth in foster care, identified as LGBTQ+ with support and resources to live proud, productive, happy lives,” reads a motion proposed by Los Angeles County supervisors Hilda Solis and Sheila Kuehl. Solis and Kuehl pledged to “create and implement prevention and intervention services that minimize family rejection when such services are necessary.”

The implication, which conveniently absolves them of all accountability, is that Yaeli’s family is the reason she killed herself.
So you thought it was the transition that killed the troubled child now adult? What ?! Really?

The family they went back to rejected them.

Note that was all in California.

The FL law was never really about protecting children it was introducing a path to go after all transgender’s rights in FL. Which DeSantis desperately tried too.

https://www.businessinsider.com/desa...da-2023-5?op=1

FL is suffering from many of DeSantis’s bad ideas and posturing.
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Old 06-16-2023, 06:27 PM
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Affirmative action, deployment of covid vaccines along racial lines, elected democrats advocating for a "white tax" on white business owners, policies on protests during covid based on whether they were pro-blm or anti-lockdown. Attributing *any* disparity between racial groups to racism (pejoratively known as the "racism of the gaps" theory, a reference to religious thinking among secular people). I mean, you're either willfully ignorant of this stuff or you just don't care.

This is where the "asteroid destroys earth: people of color most affected" meme comes from. I used to be mega-lefty myself, but this type of shit just became too blatant to ignore. I encourage you to join me in sane person land, comrade.
I have seen enough. You are either doing some first rate forum larping that will cost you brain cells, and I respect that, or you are a monument to moment lock.

"I mean, you're either willfully ignorant of this stuff or you just don't care."

No. Go back and read what you just said this about. No way those are my only two options here. The paragraph I am quoting from sounds like someone who ran into a house of mirrors, and is winded, and says, "Why are these mirrors so messed up? You have to be either willfully ignorant of what it's like in here or just not care."

You see where this leaves your audience, choice-wise?
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Old 06-16-2023, 06:33 PM
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I'm not sure why they taught us that Slippery Slope isn't real, it's very real and we're slippin the days away.
That's the point. It isn't real. But bullshit artists sell it as one of their classic fallacies.

A fallacy is like a donut hamburger. Kinda funny, but if you make it a habit the joke's on you.

Then you get posters who post lard filled dumps, and who cry about double standards because the community wants to make a distinction at that juncture.
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Old 06-16-2023, 07:12 PM
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I get it why Baler would have fallen for the misinformation but OMG did you even research your linked article? Of course the Washington Examiner would skew the real story.

https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/washington-examiner/
Bias Rating: RIGHT
Factual Reporting: MIXED



So you thought it was the transition that killed the troubled child now adult? What ?! Really?

The family they went back to rejected them.

Note that was all in California.

The FL law was never really about protecting children it was introducing a path to go after all transgender’s rights in FL. Which DeSantis desperately tried too.

https://www.businessinsider.com/desa...da-2023-5?op=1

FL is suffering from many of DeSantis’s bad ideas and posturing.
Is it that the state will take your child or that the state will keep your child from you? 🤪
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