5-4 incoming?

[Elizondo]

Originally Posted by Horza [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I don't know, why don't you tell me why one hundred percent of the anti-abortion activists in this country are frothing Christian nutjobs?

Pathetic Biden can't even keep baby food on the shelves

[Kaveh]

Originally Posted by Elizondo [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Pathetic Biden can't even keep baby food on the shelves

Yes that’s Biden’s personal doing

lol

[Elizondo]

Originally Posted by Kaveh [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Yes that’s Biden’s personal doing

lol

https://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/nati...e/3682564/?amp

After ordering Abbott's Michigan plant to close due to contamination concerns following a nationwide recall of baby formula, the FDA said the company can release some specialty formulas "on a case-by-case basis"

As parents across the U.S. are scrambling to find baby formula because of supply disruptions, the Food and Drug Administration announced Tuesday it would allow some formula products from the shuttered Abbott facility in Michigan to be released on a "case-by-case" basis.

Last month, however, the FDA and Centers for Disease Control and Prevention told NBC News none of the bacterial strains taken at the Abbott plant matched those collected from the infants, and the agencies haven't offered an explanation for how the contamination occured.

https://www.nbcnews.com/health/kids-...mula-rcna24361

Amid baby formula shortage, factory stays shut as investigators try to pinpoint source of bacteria that sickened infants

The CDC said it found no match between bacteria samples from two sick infants and samples from a Michigan formula factory that paused production earlier this year.

[Jibartik]

That isn't what I think you believe and that isn't what I believe. I have not engaged in the 'life begins at the moment of conception' argument because I don't think anyone can provide a definitive answer to that question either way. Or at least nobody that I take seriously.

you're going to tell me that your unique and unreplicatable genetic code that is created within 24 hours after fertilization that does not change until it turns to dust with you of old age, is not enough for you?

[Reiwa]

Reminder that this is all Texas' fault anyway.

[Reiwa]

Originally Posted by MrSparkle001 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

It's going to hinge on whether a woman has a constitutional right to an abortion, and quite frankly there is nothing in the constitution about it. They used in Roe vs Wade due process arguments.



I'm no lawyer but I can see how the right to an abortion is more a byproduct of a ruling on an entirely different matter. Right to privacy = right to abortion?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Griswold_v._Connecticut

Originally Posted by Kaveh [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

If someone is willing to claim they were raped to have an abortion, maybe you should consider how serious they consider that right ?

Polls will show you 60% of the US is pro choice. This isn’t the Handmaid’s Tale or Afghanistan. At least not yet

Originally Posted by Kaveh [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

If someone is willing to claim they were raped to have an abortion, maybe you should consider how serious they consider that right ?

Polls will show you 60% of the US is pro choice. This isn’t the Handmaid’s Tale or Afghanistan. At least not yet

lmao my dude

During the years after Roe, although not immediately, McCorvey joined with and accompanied others in the abortion rights movement. During this time, McCorvey stated that she had publicly lied about being raped and apologized for making the false rape claim.

And the Hyde amendment already permits federal funding for rape, incest, etc abortions.

In 1976, Congress passed the Hyde Amendment, barring the federal government from using Medicaid to fund abortions except in cases of rape, incest, or a threat to the life of the mother.

[Trexller]

I've brought it up before, but there's this attitude that is rather unique to the USA

it's as follows: DON'T FUCKING TELL ME WHAT TO DO

99% of the rest of the world just rolls over when the gov't says to roll over.

also, I find it hilarious that all the people screaming, "Keep your laws off my body!" are the same ones who were screaming, "The gov't said to get a vaccine so now you have to!"

[unsunghero]

Sorry I misrepresented these pro-life women voters

When I say they “want the gov’t to control their own bodies”, what I really meant is that they have the capacity to intelligently family plan in a way that they have control of their own procreation. Some make mistakes and they find a non-lethal way to deal with those mistakes

Or they lie and still get abortions. Could be some doing that too

[unsunghero]

Oh these are also anecdotal, but I had a co-worker who I’m not sure is 100% pro-life because she is a hardcore progressive like most people working in BH

But she has an interesting story regarding her son. She was 19 or so at a party and hooked up with someone due to being too drunk and high on coke. By this point she was partying and doing coke pretty much every weekend

I still have no idea why she didn’t get an abortion because once again I don’t think she is opposed to it, but it’s not because she didn’t know she was pregnant. She knew just about as soon as one could, and when she hit up the dad, he at first acted invested and then left the state

To this day she claims having the kid changed her life. When she was my co-worker she was one of my biggest nags against my argument that I’m too narcissistic to be a good parent. She says having a kid changes something in your brain, and you feel a strong paternal bond immediately. Now I don’t believe this is true for everyone but for her it was. She claims that having that kid and being a single parent actually SAVED her life, because it caused her to stop doing the drugs (having the kid was her rock bottom moment), and clean herself up, get her master’s degree, etc

The only footnote is that she did have the support of her family for helping to watch the kid. But when someone has the thought “I need to terminate this pregnancy to benefit my situation” it might be just the opposite. For some people having a kid causes some immediate change in their outlook on life and goals in a positive way

[Ooloo]

Originally Posted by unsunghero [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

To this day she claims having the kid changed her life. When she was my co-worker she was one of my biggest nags against my argument that I’m too narcissistic to be a good parent. She says having a kid changes something in your brain, and you feel a strong paternal bond immediately. Now I don’t believe this is true for everyone but for her it was. She claims that having that kid and being a single parent actually SAVED her life, because it caused her to stop doing the drugs (having the kid was her rock bottom moment), and clean herself up, get her master’s degree, etc

I don't have kids of my own, but I do have a niece and nephew who I have a great relationship with and I can honestly say the way I thought about abortion changed drastically after that. I still support it under certain circumstances, but just the thought of the dismembered body of baby being thrown in the trash became so galling to me (in the case of mid-late term abortions), and seeing how much my brother changed, who is still a leftie but also the best father I've ever seen, and who I had never seen cry actual tears of joy ever in my life.. so it really can re-orient something in your brain, even if they aren't your kids!

I still think legit rape victims, first trimesters and legit threats to the life of the mother are okay, so don't hyperventilate, horza.