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Old 02-24-2022, 04:03 PM
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It is all there man in the article.

She calls the Ukrainian president a pathetic display...

That the Ukrainian ambassador looks like a defeated man.

Ingraham and Trump both also absurdly sought to blame President Joe Biden for Russia’s incursion, with Trump declaring that it “all happened because of a rigged election."

Ingraham’s spin of the situation rivaled that of her colleague, Pete Hegseth, who announced earlier this week that Trump was just trying to “troll” the media when he praised Putin’s invasion strategy as a work of “genius.”

It is all there... want to make it all up more how you perceive it?
Yes once again, it’s not a spin to say that trying to beg a man like Putin on the brink of invading (or already invading) not to invade makes you look weak. It DOES make you look weak and defeated. Absolutely

I guess we will just have a difference of opinion on what looks weak or not. My mom’s dog flips onto his back and pisses on his own face when he feels intimidated, I guess you might see that as strong but I see it as weak

Now Ukraine has grown a spine and said they will fight. So again, it sounds more like they listened to Laura than they listened to you, and good for them for that. You can die fighting now or you can surrender and die in an insurgency later, either way you are dying. That’s how I see how to handle an invasion of your own land. You fight

And it is smart of Putin to invade, assuming he can ride out the sanctions (which I don’t think he can but we’ll see), because he knows the USA and NATO won’t go to war over it. You can call a move smart and still not like the person. General E Lee of the confederacy made some smart military moves too
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Old 02-24-2022, 04:09 PM
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Also, Trump probably wouldn’t have done anything either, but Trump is unpredictable enough that no one was completely sure of that

I remember the establishment media saying Trump planned to go to war with or nuke N Korea many times when he was pres. There was even a time when the country was panicked that Trump could have access to nuclear launch codes
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Old 02-24-2022, 04:25 PM
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Trump was an unknown quantity and not a Russian puppet.

He couldn't even micromanage our military which barbecued an entire Russian division probably just interpreting their own probably vague orders. Most of the media very quickly covered that up. No way Russia wants to be our ally for sure. Probably for the best, what do I know?

Likely Putin has seen how America is completely rudderless and choking on its own lowest common denominators. Vomiting wretches and criminals even faster than themselves. And so also thought "fuck it who knows what'll really happen, I'll just nip Ukraine in the bud so the trouble stays in Ukraine, not directly on my border". "We'll see". In that case Trump is no more directly responsible then the rest of you and he's just king Eckbert of his social media feed. Fox fanbois.

Oh ya and Chechnya was never really stable after joining the Russian federation. So there's that element too. Chechnya could still explode like Syria did.

Is a a villain. Yes. Gay Hitler? Probably not. Not yet anyway. Maybe he's not doing so well tho at 69. A lot of people rapidly deteriorate sometime after their 50s.

Yall got really short term memories too. I dunno what else to add, I was going to say something else. Bezos yacht still doesn't care. Nor does Melania.

Look at how you yourself can be a better citizen or provide others opportunities to be better citizens and think about being honorable.

I know I've been a dishonorable little selfish shit in the distant past. Although I never wanted to be. Let's not be such an easy target and selfish group of thugs ourselves first. Then maybe we could actually stand up for what is right for once again at least.

I think just last month they dismantled some wwii bomb shelter in some city for some kinda convenience or something? I read that on social media somewhere.

It's embarrassing we don't have public kitchens and fitness programs for those that play ball, are lawful, and part of the reserves, train, etc. Shameful.

Don't cry at others to save Ukraine for your feelings if you can't even do basic.

My best Tucker, Alex Jones impression.

God bless.
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Old 02-24-2022, 05:38 PM
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"I have initiated a call today with the president of the Russian Federation. The result - silence. Although silence should be in Donbass.

That is why today, I want to come with an appeal to all citizens of Russia. Not as President. I am appealing to the people of Russia as a citizen of Ukraine. We share more than two thousand kilometres of border. Around it, today, is your army: almost 200,000 soldiers; thousands of military units. Your leadership has approved their movement towards us. Towards the territory of another country. This step can become the start of a big war on the European continent. The whole world is talking about what can happen any day now. A reason can appear at any moment. Any provocation. Any spark. A spark that has the potential of burning everything down.

You are told that this flame will bring freedom to the people of Ukraine. But the people of Ukraine are free. They remember their past, and are building their own future. They are building it, not destroying it, as you are told everyday on TV. Ukraine in your news and Ukraine in reality are two completely different countries. The most important difference is that ours is real.

You are being told that we are nazis. But how can a nation be called nazist after sacrificing more than 8 million lives to eradicate nazism. How can I be a nazi, when my grandfather has survived the whole war as part of the Soviet infantry, and has died a colonel in an independent Ukraine. You are told that we hate Russian culture. But how can a culture be hated? Any culture. Neighbours are always enriching each other culturally. Yet, that does not make them one entity, and does not separate people into “us” and “them”. We are different, but that is not a reason to be enemies. We want to build our own history. Peacefully, calmly, and truthfully.

You are told that I am ordering to attack the Donbass. To shoot. To bomb without questions. Although there are questions: To shoot at whom? To bomb what?

Donetsk? To which I have been dozens of times. I have seen their faces and eyes.

Artema street? On which I have been on many walks with my friends in the past.

Donbass arena? Where I have been rooting with the locals for our boys during the Euros.

Shcherbakova Park? In which we were drinking together after our team has lost

Lugansk? The home of my best friend’s mom. The place where my best friend’s father is buried.

Note that I am now speaking in Russian, yet no one in Russia understands what these names, streets, and events mean. This is all foreign to you. Unknown. This is our land. This is our history. What are you going to fight for? And against whom?

Many of you have visited Ukraine in the past. Many of you have relatives here. Some of you studied in our universities. Befriended Ukrainian people. You’re familiar with our character, with our people, our principles. You know what we cherish the most. Look inside you, listen to the voice of reason, of common sense. Hear our voices. The people of Ukraine want peace. Ukrainian authorities want peace. We want it, and we make it. We do everything in our powers. We are not alone. It’s true, Ukraine is supported by many countries. Why? Because we are not talking about peace at any cost. We are talking about peace, and about principles, justice. About everyone’s right to define their own future, of safety, and everyone’s right to live without threat. All this is important to us. All this is important for peace. I know for sure that this is also important for you. We know for sure that we don’t want war. Neither cold, hot, or hybrid.

But, if we are threatened; If someone is trying to take away our country, our freedom, our lives. The lives of our children. We are going to defend ourselves. Not attack. Defend. By attacking us, you are going to see our faces. Not backs. Our faces.

War is a big distress, and it has a big price - in all meanings of this word. People lose their money, reputation, quality of life, freedom, and most importantly, people lose their loved ones. Lose themselves. A lot of things are always lacking in war. But what is in abundance is pain, dirt, blood, and death. Thousands. Tens of thousands of deaths. You are told that Ukraine is a threat to Russia. This was not true before, not now, and won’t be in the future. You are demanding security assurances from NATO. We are also demanding assurances of our security. The security of Ukraine from you. From Russia. And from other signatories of the Budapest memorandum. Today, we are not part of random security alliances. The security of Ukraine is tied to the security of our neighbours. That is why we are now talking about the security of all Europe. But our main goal is peace in Ukraine, and the safety of our citizens. Of Ukrainians. We are determined to let everyone know about this, including you. War is going to deprive everyone of any assurances. No one will have assurances of security.

Who is going to suffer from this the most? The people.

Who does not want this more than anyone? The people.

Who can prevent all this from happening? The people.

If these people are among you. I am sure they are. Public figures, journalists, musicians, actors, athletes, scientists, doctors, bloggers, stand-up comics, tiktokers, and others. Ordinary people. Ordinary, simple people. Men, women, old, young, fathers, and most importantly - mothers. Just as much as the people in Ukraine, no matter how much they try to convince you of the opposite.

I know that my announcement will not be aired on Russian television. But the citizens of Russia have to see it. They need to know the truth. And the truth is, that this needs to stop, before it’s too late. And if the authorities of Russia don’t want to talk to us, for the sake of peace, maybe they will talk to you.

Do the people of Russia want war? I would’ve very much liked to be able to answer this, but the answer depends only on you - citizens of the Russian Federation."
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Old 02-24-2022, 05:43 PM
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Pretty speech but a waste of breath on someone like Putin. And judging by the 1,700 anti-war protestors he just imprisoned, it’s not going to work well on his people either

Putin respects only strength and action. Wouldn’t be surprised if he didn’t even bother to read to the speech
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Pretty speech but a waste of breath on someone like Putin. And judging by the 1,700 anti-war protestors he just imprisoned, it’s not going to work well on his people either

Putin respects only strength and action. Wouldn’t be surprised if he didn’t even bother to read to the speech
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Old 02-24-2022, 10:06 PM
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Sad Botten pathetically schilling for Biden. Losin his dignity BIGLY
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Old 02-25-2022, 12:30 AM
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Soon Vladimir Putin will be out of power and probably dead.
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Old 02-25-2022, 12:39 AM
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Crazy to see these helo's doing what they do.
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Old 02-25-2022, 12:42 AM
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is the president of ukraine trying to say he is not a nazi? because that I have discovered is litearally a dog whistle, and the calling card of nazi's.

I know this because horza said so.
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