Probably time for a Kyle Rittenhouse thread.

[Whale biologist]

Originally Posted by Homesteaded [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Haven’t been following this thread but there can’t be people who still think this isn’t self defense, right…right?

It would be if not for Kyle's immediate prior action

That's the vid the jury keeps asking about btw.

[starkind]

Ok.

So the stop/arrest was illegal.

He likely fought the cops (bad idea).

And the Paramedics who where called OD'd him.

Not 100% the cops fault.

paramedics Jeremy Cooper and Peter Cichuniec administered ketamine to McClain to sedate him.[6][4] While on scene McClain went into cardiac arrest. Three days after arriving at the hospital, he was declared brain dead, and was removed from life support on August 30.[7]

McClain's autopsy was inconclusive and the cause of death was listed as undetermined by the coroner. Aurora Police officers met with the coroner before his announcement, and police investigators were also present during the autopsy.[8] On June 24, 2020, after a social media outcry and Aurora lawmakers' requests for a new, third-party investigation into McClain's death,[9] Colorado Governor Jared Polis announced his administration would reexamine the case.[10] Five days later, photos that were taken in October 2019 which showed officers posing inappropriately and reenacting the carotid restraint used on McClain, taken at the site he was detained, were discovered. One officer resigned and three were fired.[11]

In February 2021, an investigative report ordered by the City Council was released. The investigation found that the police officers involved in McClain's death did not have the legal basis to stop, restrain, or frisk him. The report questioned the police officers' statements, criticized the medical responders' decision to inject McClain with a sedative, and admonished the police department for failing to do a serious questioning of the officers following McClain's death.[12] In September 2021, the three police officers (Woodyard, Rosenblatt and Roedema) and two paramedics (Cooper and Cichuniec) were charged through a Colorado grand jury with manslaughter and other lesser charges for the death of Elijah McClain.[4][13][14]

From what I could tell from Wikipedia.

So, like the cops didn't just walk up and dart the guy 3x.

[Gravydoo II]

So if I roll up on you and put my hands on you, try to force you into my car, and you tense up the slightest bit, you started a fight with me? Wow, you must be really stupid to not realize cops dont have the right to put their hands on you whenever the fuck they want. Cops dont get to control what temperature people are allowed to walk in. Without the cops, nobody would be dead. Its 100% their LIES that killed him.

They lied by saying he was so out of control he needed to be drugged. 100% their fault.

[starkind]

Originally Posted by Gravydoo II [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

So if I roll up on you and put my hands on you, try to force you into my car, and you tense up the slightest bit, you started a fight with me? Wow, you must be really stupid to not realize cops dont have the right to put their hands on you whenever the fuck they want. Cops dont get to control what temperature people are allowed to walk in. Without the cops, nobody would be dead. Its 100% their LIES that killed him.

They lied by saying he was so out of control he needed to be drugged. 100% their fault.

We live in a very fucked up and terrifying world. And I am for real sure if I undermined any ones power cops or gangstalkers or illegals would disappear me to. And I have had really bad days were I may have fought back.

Every single time me and cops had a conflict so far though. It's ended peacefully because I complied. It sucks. It's terrifying. It's fucked up. Idk if they really really had no reason to question him AT All. Someone said he was suspicious to a 911 operator so ya. They probably just got a text "suspy skimask guy" and low and behold skimask guy when almost no one in their right mind is going to be out.

I'm not gonna say they where right. Considering the world we live in. Well. I just can't get fucking mad and worked up over it. if someone didn't comply with the cops and go to court later.

He'd be alive.

You can thank 9/11 patriot act, greedy corporate slutpigs, and people ONLY being allowed to rely on the fasicistic police and being cowards.

Missing persons gone down since 1996 tho.

Point, don't be stupid and violent when living under fascism. Even respecting ur mortal enemies goes a long way.

U can't get rid of the police without enabling citizens who are going to also use deadly force and be even more extreme and paranoid as our economy tanks even further and more people riot and resort to barbaric thuggery.

[Gravydoo II]

It just didnt have to happen. Cops could have kept on driving. It was cold out. Dude was in cold weather gear. Thats like stopping me for wearing a rain coat and rain pants while its raining and saying its suspicious. Thats fucking crazy.

Nobody can predict the future. Who even know cops call the paramedics to drug people on the side of the road?? Who even knew that before this story? Not me. Fact is, cops are out of fucking control. They can call in a roadside doctor to administer drugs to you, like nazi fucking germany. Thats not crazy??? Tell me thats not fucking crazy.

You get what you give, concerning respect. Cops dont respect citizens, not the majority of them. Fearing getting in trouble for arresting a powerful guy is not the same thing as respect, either. They dont even respect the law. Ever seen a cop pull over a cop for speeding? Besides that ONE video?? I mean IRL, too.

If it were the other way around and they did respect us, wouldnt we have more compliance out of them when the citizens ask them for change? What do they do? They wont even produce evidence and video tapes when asked if it goes against their story. Truth is they see all of us as criminals and we're just hiding it from them some how but they are gonna find out. When they dont, they inject you with drugs and say you were "resisting".

[Jibartik]

Originally Posted by Gravydoo II [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

It just didnt have to happen. Cops could have kept on driving. It was cold out. Dude was in cold weather gear. Thats like stopping me for wearing a rain coat and rain pants while its raining and saying its suspicious. Thats fucking crazy.

Nobody can predict the future. Who even know cops call the paramedics to drug people on the side of the road?? Who even knew that before this story? Not me. Fact is, cops are out of fucking control. They can call in a roadside doctor to administer drugs to you, like nazi fucking germany. Thats not crazy??? Tell me thats not fucking crazy.

You get what you give, concerning respect. Cops dont respect citizens, not the majority of them. Fearing getting in trouble for arresting a powerful guy is not the same thing as respect, either. They dont even respect the law. Ever seen a cop pull over a cop for speeding? Besides that ONE video?? I mean IRL, too.

If it were the other way around and they did respect us, wouldnt we have more compliance out of them when the citizens ask them for change? What do they do? They wont even produce evidence and video tapes when asked if it goes against their story. Truth is they see all of us as criminals and we're just hiding it from them some how but they are gonna find out. When they dont, they inject you with drugs and say you were "resisting".

https://youtu.be/5d7SaO0JAHk?t=21

[starkind]

Originally Posted by Jibartik [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

https://youtu.be/5d7SaO0JAHk?t=21

Exactly lol.

[starkind]

You're basing your world view on YouTube videos and anecdotes from Wikipedia and CNN.

Tell me. What have you done lately other than to bitch about cops online in this shity thread to ensure your own liberty, security, safety, and that of your neighbors.

Plz don't go off half cocked throwing soup cans, skateboards and shit at one of these riots. Find out the truth of why this world is. And why you are so dependent on this government and its cops you so hate and the corporate lobbies that control it all and keep you from having your own community free from the influences and threats of thugs of all stripes and creeds.

It's because we are fucking slaves brother.

Start there.

Stop defending pointless losses.

[unsunghero]

I saw paramedics over-sedate a psychotic lady in my job and then they began working on her medically like she was having medical emergency. She passed out mid sentence from the shot they gave her then I think her blood pressure went nuts. She woulda died from dehydration if they just left her though, sitting in someone’s front yard refusing to move or leave when it was 100+ out bc she believed it was her home

[Gravydoo II]

Originally Posted by unsunghero [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I saw paramedics over-sedate a psychotic lady in my job and then they began working on her medically like she was having medical emergency. She passed out mid sentence from the shot they gave her then I think her blood pressure went nuts. She woulda died from dehydration if they just left her though, sitting in someone’s front yard refusing to move or leave when it was 100+ out bc she believed it was her home

See. Thats fucking insane. I saw a video of them murdering a guy cause he was in a car accident, skin was burned off like 70% of his body. So they said "he wouldnt comply" and gunned him down because "i didnt want to get blood on me by touching him".

That sounds like they REALLY respect people.. rodney king? Respect clubbing. When that cop was slugging that homeless lady on the road side in the full mount? Respect lefts and rights i suppose.