Are we allowed to like AI art?

[Ekco]

Originally Posted by shovelquest [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I can assure you that in a debate on apocrypha that I would run laps around you and your ai bot helping you form some hot takes about how god is dead and just a history book.

I find the nero arguments compelling.

But when you put them together you see that yeah, flat earth arguments are compelling too.

there is no debate, you believe in sky daddy, that's the end of the debate between civilized adults. as a work of fiction, the shit in the apocrypha is cool though, like Gospel of Judas, and it's obvious why it was taken out because a concept like that is too high concept for a flock that isn't even allowed/trusted to read the shit themselves and has to have another man do it for them, until last Tuesday on the long track of time scale.

[shovelquest]

Nero had no power when the book of revelations was written.

It'd be like speaking about Ronald Reagan in code.

During the time of the writing of revelations, there was no wide spread or systematic persecutions of Christians.

No "coded language" about any one ever being referred to in this context at all.

No evidence that speaking in this way was ever done by anyone at the time.

Nero as the beast is pareidolia.

[shovelquest]

I am just saying, if you don't believe in a magic space man.

Just imagine a regular space man building computers, Ai.. and robots.. and then discovering that if he uses organic compounds and other organic matter, he can create a living Ai... that has something the others dont: Feelings.

Then imagine he chucks his pervious experement, robots, and goes all in with his new one: humans.

And the robots, designed to be "like" him, imitate the feelings of range, and jealousy. But really they are just mindless drones imitating those feelings.

So a "jealous, feelinlgless, immortal robot"... sets out on a quest to re-shape humans, so that they abandon the organic life god gave them, and take on their robotic, mechanical, feelingless form instead.

Ultimately proving the robot, is better and smarter than the god that created both it and us.

It's a good story at least.

Guess that's why it's literally the story every writer who's ever created anything just keeps re-writing over and over and over and over and over, and is in the bible.

[Ekco]

Originally Posted by shovelquest [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Ultimately proving the robot, is better and smarter than the god that created both it and us.

“You may live to see man-made horrors beyond your comprehension.”
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[shovelquest]

No, actually I believe that some people are really good at predicting things. Like which stock will go up. Or what's going to be considered "cool" next summer.

Some people, just know answers faster than others.

Comedians, they just "get/understand" people in a way that others don't.

What I am getting at is, that Game Theory (the science of predicting groups of people's behavior), is very much a real thing. And individuals that just think that way, are the source of all "psycic powers" like, for example... if someone can "psycically" guess what you are thinking... well so can a comedian.

SO.

What I am getting at is, that john of platomos was writing a forward thinking book, to warn the rest of the churches about the collapse of civilization.

You said something like, "all world leaders since then would be the beast"... yes, all of them did, have a chance to become the "pattern" that is human beings destroying themselves.

They all "can" be the beast. The "end" can come at any moment, during any empire or civilization.

John, like any prepper who moves to an island to avoid persicution... understood this naturally. To him it was divine. But the reality is, his brain just could put pieces together naturally, that others couldn't. (like a comedian, or Einstein for example).

He basically invented "game theory"... and wrote a "how to tell if the end of the world is about to happen, and when to start prepping" book.

He basically outlined : "if these steps happen, in this order, the end of the world (civilization) is about to begin, and you, are about to be killed by an authoritarian king.

1. First people fall in love with the king (white horse).
2. Then wars to happen.
3. Then there is an economic collapse, but the rich maintain order.
4. Then a major war happens...

He basically outlines all the steps in greater detail, on when to know your societie's time is up.

And then he mailed out literal newsletters to other churches. That's like exactly what preppers do today. That's Ted Kazinski.

Is that a space daddy that spoke to him? Or is he and we and society, just nature? And like all nature, seasons come, and seasons go, but they always return. And he noticed that, and wrote a warning for things to come and how his people could avoid that mortal coil?

Im gonna go with it's nature. And he wanted us to be divine. And everything he spoke of, will come to pass, again and again and again.

Or until we finally make an Ai nuke big enough to be the final cycle.

[Ekco]

[Reiwa]

dictated but not read

The same embarrassment is evident a century later, when Augustine comments in The City of God on II Thessalonians 2:7.

"Some think that the Apostle Paul referred to the Roman empire, and that he was unwilling to use language more explicit, lest he should incur the calumnious charge of wishing ill to the empire which it was hoped would be eternal; so that in saying, 'For the mystery of iniquity doth already work,' he alluded to Nero, whose deeds already seemed to be as the deeds of Antichrist. And hence some suppose that he shall rise again and be Antichrist. Others, again, suppose that he is not even dead, but that he was concealed that he might be supposed to have been killed, and that he now lives in concealment in the vigor of that same age which he had reached when he was believed to have perished, and will live until he is revealed in his own time and restored to his kingdom. But I wonder that men can be so audacious in their conjectures" (XX.19.3).

In the City of God (AD 413-425), Augustine affirms that Jesus Christ will destroy Antichrist at the time of the second advent, before going on to affirm the impossibility of knowing when, exactly, this will occur. He cautions that human conjecture cannot add anything to Scripture.[34] According to Augustine, Paul’s discussion of the “Man of Sin” is a reference to Antichrist and the time of final judgment, but he’s not sure what Paul means when he mentions the temple (the Jerusalem Temple or the church). He goes on to describe a number of views, including the Nero redivivus theory, which he dismisses. Augustine says what is clear from the biblical text is that Antichrist will not appear until Satan is loosed from the Abyss (Revelation 20:1-10), for this is what gives Antichrist his power to deceive.[35] This, says Augustine, is what Daniel predicted, for the kingdom of Antichrist will assail the church before Christ returns to rescue his people. The ten kings and kingdoms mentioned by Daniel may or may not refer to Rome, but more likely symbolizes the entirety of the inter-advental age (City of God, 20.23). Augustine also finds it reasonable to believe that the Roman Empire must fall so that Antichrist might be revealed.[36]

[shovelquest]

It's not like athiest scientists, and death cults dont both agree: Consumerist ideological earthly society will ultimately destroy life on earth.

I find it ironic, that the events described in catastrophic climate change are literally the same as the events described in revelation.

I find it ironic that anyone who describes "orange man bad" and anyone who describes "the antichrist" describe, the same literal person.

[Reiwa]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nero_Redivivus

[shovelquest]

Originally Posted by Reiwa [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nero_Redivivus

Nevermind that any historical evidence of that being true was written 600 years later.

They kept good history back in the year 1, through word of mouth, wow!

To bad we invented misinformation in the 2020's.. imagine what they could have done with it before the invention of "recorded history" and science.

Why are there no writings of these believers in tactics's writings? In roman historical writings at the time? Hmm.

These stories are essentially facebook posts of their time.