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Old 06-16-2023, 07:45 AM
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Hate speech is free speech
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Old 06-16-2023, 10:41 AM
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Snyder v Phelps, Brandenberg v Ohio

No more tricking with Canadian news, kapische?
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Old 06-16-2023, 12:47 PM
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Snyder v Phelps, Brandenberg v Ohio

No more tricking with Canadian news, kapische?

Chaplinsky v. New Hampshire (1942) has merit, when a unanimous Supreme Court issued a categorical exception to the First Amendment’s freedom of speech clause.

What conservatives aren't in Canada now? Seems like a far stretch.
There was a particularly bad one in New Zealand who idolized Trump and did some horrendous things.
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Old 06-16-2023, 01:12 PM
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Chaplinsky v. New Hampshire (1942) has merit, when a unanimous Supreme Court issued a categorical exception to the First Amendment’s freedom of speech clause.
If the n word isn't fighting words, what is?
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Old 06-16-2023, 01:13 PM
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Hate speech is free speech
It can be chargeable tho. Simple disturbin' o' the peace fines can pile up fast.

Let's mix it up. Let's sub in the word "dog speech" for both free speech and hate speech. Can dogs bark? Yes. Will they? Yes, usually. Is it wrong to try to beat a dog so it does not bark?

There is debate. Complicated issue.

What if the dog is harmless, barely barks, no one is even complaining, just the owner wants a silent dog?

Excuse me, the owner what?

Dog owns you. Democracy 101.
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It can be chargeable tho. Simple disturbin' o' the peace fines can pile up fast.

Let's mix it up. Let's sub in the word "dog speech" for both free speech and hate speech. Can dogs bark? Yes. Will they? Yes, usually. Is it wrong to try to beat a dog so it does not bark?

There is debate. Complicated issue.

What if the dog is harmless, barely barks, no one is even complaining, just the owner wants a silent dog?

Excuse me, the owner what?

Dog owns you. Democracy 101.
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Old 06-16-2023, 02:43 PM
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Afaik the black hebrew israelites who march around with signs containing all manner of hateful speech toward jews and white people are never included in the hate speech tent. Like with so many concepts the left embraces, it is ill-defined and also applied unequally. It's like they're actually trying to gin up hostility and resentment between different groups. They claim to champion "progress" while moving social relations precisely backward with nearly every policy they enact.

Are they dumb or malicious? That's always the question.
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Old 06-16-2023, 03:01 PM
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show me the policies that have been enacted/pushed through by the progressive caucus that have *checks notes* moved progress backwards

all of your posts boil down to "i think every single person on the left does this thing that i hate" and it's tired lol
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Old 06-16-2023, 03:27 PM
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Afaik the black hebrew israelites who march around with signs containing all manner of hateful speech toward jews and white people are never included in the hate speech tent. Like with so many concepts the left embraces, it is ill-defined and also applied unequally. It's like they're actually trying to gin up hostility and resentment between different groups. They claim to champion "progress" while moving social relations precisely backward with nearly every policy they enact.

Are they dumb or malicious? That's always the question.
It sure is. and remember. It's not the plane Ooloo. It's the pilot.
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Old 06-16-2023, 03:32 PM
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Afaik the black hebrew israelites who march around with signs containing all manner of hateful speech toward jews and white people are never included in the hate speech tent. Like with so many concepts the left embraces, it is ill-defined and also applied unequally. It's like they're actually trying to gin up hostility and resentment between different groups. They claim to champion "progress" while moving social relations precisely backward with nearly every policy they enact.

Are they dumb or malicious? That's always the question.
I don’t know there’s a lot of white supremacist groups that happened to follow the ‘right’s-ideology
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