Michael Brown

[Misto]

Originally Posted by HeallunRumblebelly [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

They took a guy who had his hands up with 5 people and choked him to death. Jesus fuck Sidelle it isn't that hard. NYPD are some of the most dangerous people on the planet.

You act as if the police have a moral obligation to trust criminals with their lives.

That's funny.

Where as you'd think someone with 31 prior arrests would know how to behave when being detained by the police.

[MrSparkle001]

Funny because I heard that the chokehold was legal and that's one of the main reasons why there wasn't an indictment.

I have to side with the grand jury on this one too. They saw the evidence and were told about the laws. All I have is a short video and the media.

[Glenzig]

Originally Posted by MrSparkle001 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Funny because I heard that the chokehold was legal and that's one of the main reasons why there wasn't an indictment.

I have to side with the grand jury on this one too. They saw the evidence and were told about the laws. All I have is a short video and the media.

I know I've heard that it was legal, illegal, banned, ok...pretty much everything except a definite answer. The great thing is that laws about stuff like this are written purposefully vague so that they can be bent one way or the other depending on the circumstance. As far as the video goes, it didn't seem like people had a problem forming a definite opinion about Michael Brown after the footage of him robbing a store before he got shot was released. I know my opinion certainly changed based on that.

[Orruar]

Originally Posted by Glenzig [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I know I've heard that it was legal, illegal, banned, ok...pretty much everything except a definite answer. The great thing is that laws about stuff like this are written purposefully vague so that they can be bent one way or the other depending on the circumstance.

No, it's not vague. Choke holds are legal (i.e. not against the law), but they are against police policy. So using one is a policy violation, which is not punishable by the law, but rather an employment matter. Like if you use your computer at work to watch porn. You can be fired, but the company can't bring criminal charges against you (in most circumstances) since it's not an illegal act.

Originally Posted by Glenzig [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

As far as the video goes, it didn't seem like people had a problem forming a definite opinion about Michael Brown after the footage of him robbing a store before he got shot was released. I know my opinion certainly changed based on that.

Video evidence can be useful (although I doubt it was even presented to the Darren Wilson grand jury since grand juries only hear from the prosecutor), but forming an opinion based solely on a video is idiotic at best. I mean, what exactly would you have known about the altercation between Wilson and Brown that happened minutes after Brown was last on video? The video shows nothing about the incident in question, and so forming a solid opinion based solely on that is suspect logic.

[MrSparkle001]

Originally Posted by Orruar [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

No, it's not vague. Choke holds are legal (i.e. not against the law), but they are against police policy.

and that's yet another thing I've heard conflicting reports on. I've heard that they teach it in the academy as the way to take people down and hold them and so what the cop did was exactly what he was trained to do.

I'm still not really happy about this though. He said he couldn't breathe and the cop never eased up. It may not be illegal but it's hard for a lot of people to come to terms with, certainly much harder than Wilson shooting Brown.

This case has a much greater chance of fed intervention than the Wilson-Brown case. I actually see the fed investigation resulting in charges whereas I don't see them charging Wilson with anything.

[Glenzig]

If you didn't get it, sorry.

[Orruar]

Originally Posted by Glenzig [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

If you didn't get it, sorry.

The irony is thick with this one.

[Hastley]

dont do things that draw police attention. had this line of thought been used there would of been no need for this thread.

In before racial profiling etc etc etc

[Raev]

America has a growing gangster/thug/ghetto culture that glorifies mindless violence, reckless use of dangerous drugs, broken homes, and a general anti-civic attitude. This is the fucking problem, not police profiling or systemic racism.

And it has been created by liberals and welfare. Take away the welfare check, and these people are too busy trying to feed themselves to shoot cops.

[iruinedyourday]

Originally Posted by Raev [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

America has a growing gangster/thug/ghetto culture that glorifies mindless violence, reckless use of dangerous drugs, broken homes, and a general anti-civic attitude. This is the fucking problem, not police profiling or systemic racism.

And it has been created by liberals and welfare. Take away the welfare check, and these people are too busy trying to feed themselves to shoot cops.

I'll take a thug over you fat white loud filthy no job havin cargo shorts white socks pulled up to your knees Walmart god fearing Jesus loving bass fishing hunting gun worshiping scared outa your god damned mind xlarge soda drinking can't park fleece wearing hockey mom riding lawn mower Fox News parroting duck dynasty mother fuckers, any day of the week. Just fyi.