Raid Suspension: The Mystical Order

[Lazie]

Holy wall of angry text.

[Hitpoint]

Phil we didn't drop Hoshkar, our trainer was killed. I'm arguing that we should be able to drop our train up whenever we want, but regardless, we didn't do that this time. Also, we have warning in /shout so everyone in the zone could see. I'm not sure how much safer we're expected to be, outside of throwing more pullers at the dragon and literally pulling it off of IB. Which I personally don't think anyone should be expected to do. If you disagree then we'll have to leave it at that.

Originally Posted by PhilMcKracken [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

BTW I was in VP last week on my enchanter and I saw 70 TMO in VP.

The most we ever had in VP last week was during the repop which was peak hours for us. And the largest number of people on our dkp logs for that, was 63 at one time. This is far above normal though, for obvious reasons. For this last round of spawns we had 35 (druu), 44 (nexona), 46 (Hosh) and 48 (xygoz) for the four VP dragons that we killed. Far cry from 70-90.

[HeallunRumblebelly]

Originally Posted by PhilMcKracken [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I think I have a screenshot if you want me to post?

Our repop VPs, if they happen at a decent hour, usually net tons of people. I think we had something like 65 at Gore, too, lol. The swarm is indeed growing, sometimes we struggle, but we usually always have enough unless something gets fucked bigtime.

[Lazie]

Originally Posted by PhilMcKracken [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

48 is pretty high for the week that a lot of your players probably figured youd be suspended and did other things. I know for a fact you had 46 logged in on the gore wipe a few weeks ago. 63 is what I have last week, for a random repop. I'm sure if we tally it over the next few weeks the numbers will be closer to 60 than 40. Honestly I'm not saying anything about the numbers despite it must be very easy to kill dragons with even 50-60 players on at any given mob spawn and it does double your advantages whether you want to believe it or not. And as I said I think the system is kinda flawed either way, in any instance you will have people exploiting every side of every mechanic to gain the edge, its EQ nature.

No 48 is the usual high unless it is a repop or PD.

[Hitpoint]

Originally Posted by PhilMcKracken [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

48 is pretty high for the week that a lot of your players probably figured youd be suspended and did other things. I know for a fact you had 46 logged in on the gore wipe a few weeks ago. 63 is what I have last week, for a random repop. I'm sure if we tally it over the next few weeks the numbers will be closer to 60 than 40. Honestly I'm not saying anything about the numbers despite it must be very easy to kill dragons with even 50-60 players on at any given mob spawn and it does double your advantages whether you want to believe it or not. And as I said I think the system is kinda flawed either way, in any instance you will have people exploiting every side of every mechanic to gain the edge, its EQ nature.

No, 48 was people logging in for a batphone that just said "Get to VP. Suspension lifted." So nobody thought we were suspended, and we had our best numbers for that particular batphone. Everyone left their VP chars at VP as they were instructed, because we were sure the suspension would be lifted before the windows opened.

We had 46 for the Gore kill. We had 35 for the wipe.

A random repop nets far more people than any other target. Especially at peak hours like it was.

Our average would be definitely be closer to 40, not 60. My original figures were pretty accurate. More specifically I'd say 35 early morning, 45 mid day, 60 for something like a peak hours PD pop.

You're wrong on all points, really.

[Antarctica]

Originally Posted by Hitpoint [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

We had 46 for the Gore kill. We had 35 for the wipe.

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[Tue Jul 29 21:13:17 2014] <LINKDEAD>[59 Blackguard] Konsent (Iksar) <The Mystical Order>
[Tue Jul 29 21:13:17 2014] There are 71 players in Dreadlands.

[Lazie]

Originally Posted by Antarctica [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

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[Tue Jul 29 21:13:17 2014] [60 High Priest] Suegie (High Elf) <The Mystical Order>
[Tue Jul 29 21:13:17 2014] [ANONYMOUS] Mazam <The Mystical Order>
[Tue Jul 29 21:13:17 2014] [60 Warlord] Slivereyes (Dwarf) <The Mystical Order>
[Tue Jul 29 21:13:17 2014] [ANONYMOUS] Ferns <The Mystical Order>
[Tue Jul 29 21:13:17 2014] [ANONYMOUS] Zehrum <The Mystical Order>
[Tue Jul 29 21:13:17 2014] [56 Outrider] Lookin (Wood Elf) <The Mystical Order>
[Tue Jul 29 21:13:17 2014] [ANONYMOUS] Beavis <The Mystical Order>
[Tue Jul 29 21:13:17 2014] [ANONYMOUS] Masha <The Mystical Order>
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[Tue Jul 29 21:13:17 2014] [60 Sorcerer] Tombola (Gnome) <The Mystical Order>
[Tue Jul 29 21:13:17 2014] [ANONYMOUS] Tolpa <The Mystical Order>
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[Tue Jul 29 21:13:17 2014] [ANONYMOUS] Omnia <The Mystical Order>
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[Tue Jul 29 21:13:17 2014] [ANONYMOUS] Jimkins <The Mystical Order>
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[Tue Jul 29 21:13:17 2014] <LINKDEAD>[ANONYMOUS] Eskes <The Mystical Order>
[Tue Jul 29 21:13:17 2014] [ANONYMOUS] Ghomie <The Mystical Order>
[Tue Jul 29 21:13:17 2014] [ANONYMOUS] Knockers <The Mystical Order>
[Tue Jul 29 21:13:17 2014] [ANONYMOUS] Bidibodi <The Mystical Order>
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[Tue Jul 29 21:13:17 2014] [ANONYMOUS] Carron <The Mystical Order>
[Tue Jul 29 21:13:17 2014] <LINKDEAD>[ANONYMOUS] Uncharted <The Mystical Order> LFG
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[Tue Jul 29 21:13:17 2014] [ANONYMOUS] Blastwoman <The Mystical Order>
[Tue Jul 29 21:13:17 2014] [ANONYMOUS] Joystick <The Mystical Order>
[Tue Jul 29 21:13:17 2014] [ANONYMOUS] Siela <The Mystical Order>
[Tue Jul 29 21:13:17 2014] [ANONYMOUS] Kerby <The Mystical Order>
[Tue Jul 29 21:13:17 2014] [60 Phantasmist] Lavendyr (Gnome) <The Mystical Order>
[Tue Jul 29 21:13:17 2014] [ANONYMOUS] Ekco <The Mystical Order>
[Tue Jul 29 21:13:17 2014] [ANONYMOUS] Imba <The Mystical Order>
[Tue Jul 29 21:13:17 2014] [60 Sorcerer] Thannos (Gnome) <The Mystical Order>
[Tue Jul 29 21:13:17 2014] [ANONYMOUS] Phrantique <The Mystical Order>
[Tue Jul 29 21:13:17 2014] <LINKDEAD>[ANONYMOUS] Kickathon <The Mystical Order>
[Tue Jul 29 21:13:17 2014] [60 Sorcerer] Helicopter (Dark Elf) <The Mystical Order>
[Tue Jul 29 21:13:17 2014] [ANONYMOUS] Badus <The Mystical Order>
[Tue Jul 29 21:13:17 2014] [60 High Priest] Doktyr (Dwarf) <The Mystical Order>
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[Tue Jul 29 21:13:17 2014] <LINKDEAD>[ANONYMOUS] Zartron <The Mystical Order> LFG
[Tue Jul 29 21:13:17 2014] [ANONYMOUS] Nefarion <The Mystical Order>
[Tue Jul 29 21:13:17 2014] [ANONYMOUS] Beemss <The Mystical Order>
[Tue Jul 29 21:13:17 2014] [60 Oracle] Kattarina (Barbarian) <The Mystical Order>
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[Tue Jul 29 21:13:17 2014] [ANONYMOUS] Frostte <The Mystical Order>
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[Tue Jul 29 21:13:17 2014] <LINKDEAD>[ANONYMOUS] Fahndango <The Mystical Order>
[Tue Jul 29 21:13:17 2014] <LINKDEAD>[59 Blackguard] Konsent (Iksar) <The Mystical Order>
[Tue Jul 29 21:13:17 2014] There are 71 players in Dreadlands.

That was the recent Gore. They are discussing a different Gore.

[pufen]

Originally Posted by PhilMcKracken [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Duel for who gets VP. Its been done on live and that way you can move your raid to spawns. It wouldn't be a numbers game or anything, select a class every week, pick your hero and duel it out. Winner gets VP for the week. Skill isn't anything when you have pullers you can throw at the mobs with no real effect to your numbers. If you are pulling 71 on gore, which is a fucking insane zerg, your VP numbers are very high too. You picked out the few occasions where you had less than 50. Ill PM you some logs over the next 2 weeks that are new and relevant so you won't get confused.

Hitpoint, I heard from the grape vine you like CS. Come play NS2, Ill PM you my details, its where the real men play.

Why do you care so much about how many people we pull on raids that you post about it for hours? Get outside, or better yet focus on being immersed in your own guild so maybe it will go somewhere rather than ours.

[Hitpoint]

Originally Posted by PhilMcKracken [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Duel for who gets VP. Its been done on live and that way you can move your raid to spawns. It wouldn't be a numbers game or anything, select a class every week, pick your hero and duel it out. Winner gets VP for the week. Skill isn't anything when you have pullers you can throw at the mobs with no real effect to your numbers. If you are pulling 71 on gore, which is a fucking insane zerg, your VP numbers are very high too. You picked out the few occasions where you had less than 50. Ill PM you some logs over the next 2 weeks that are new and relevant so you won't get confused.

Hitpoint, I heard from the grape vine you like CS. Come play NS2, Ill PM you my details, its where the real men play.

I didn't pick anything. I went through and got 6 gore logs in a row and 9 VP kills in a row. I haven't played CS in at least 8 years and I don't know what NS2 is. What the hell is going on?

[Zaela]

Originally Posted by PhilMcKracken [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I'm an advocate for the truth, the truth and facts are more important than any of that shit to me. Its get the facts or shut the fuck up.

Originally Posted by PhilMcKracken [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

based on your history you seem like that kind of person who would/does

seems legit